Lawmakers in Georgia removed a $38 million tax exemption for jet fuel from tax-cut legislation on Thursday in a move that will punish Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines.
Republicans vowed to remove the exemption after the airline cut ties with the National Rifle Association (NRA).
Georgia's Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle (R), who is also running for governor, had threatened to kill any tax legislation that benefits Delta after the company's decision to end a discount program for NRA members.
[...] "I will kill any tax legislation that benefits @Delta unless the company changes its position and fully reinstates its relationship with @NRA," Angle tweeted earlier this week.
(Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:30AM (26 children)
I disagree on why Burwell v. Hobby Lobby was stupid (the religious objections were triggered by an abuse of government power over a near trivial issue, mandating that health insurance provide easily affordable birth control, in the first place), but it is a good argument. The government should not be punishing businesses because those businesses have taken on unpopular political stands.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @05:09AM (4 children)
You're an idiot khallow. Corporations do not have the right to make religious decisions for employees. That's a violation of the law. It's no different from any other violation of an employees religious freedom or other violation of public accommodation.
Hobby Lobby could have chosen to just shut down if they felt that strongly, instead, they deprived their minimum wage workers access to birth control pills in a cynical move aimed at harming others as a means of exerting control over them. Nothing in the Bible allows for people to behave like that.
The government wasn't punishing businesses for having unpopular political stands, the government was punishing businesses for forcing their religious views on the employees. When one opens a business one waives certain portions of their constitutional rights. As a private citizen, I can refuse to help people based upon their ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation if I like. However, if I have a business, I'm no longer free to pick and choose the way that I could if I were making the decision as a private citizen.
Ignorant people like you, seem to not be aware of why those laws were put into place. Places like Georgia would have laws on the books and enforced that would prevent people of color from receiving equal service at businesses or in public places.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by archfeld on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:24AM
Speaking of religious rights and obligations...Hobby Lobby, so devout, that they could not in good conscience provide birth control to their employees, is NOW open on Sundays. Seems Jesus needs a new pair of cleats.
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:46AM (2 children)
That is not the issue at stake. Perhaps you ought to read those rulings to see what it actually was about.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @03:35PM (1 child)
That's exactly what it was about khallow. They didn't want to spend money on birth control and pregnancy planning that their employees may or may not want to use.
By refusing to pay for the birth control devices, they were forcing the employees to find their own money and since Hobby Lobby pays minimum wage for so many of their positions, it meant that the employees couldn't have the pills without finding a nonprofit to pay.
Shy of going around inspecting employees' medicine cabinets for birth control products, it's hard to get much controlling over the workers. Refuse to pay a decent wage and then refuse to pay for the birth control products that they were legally obligated to pay for.
Unfortunately, the right has been allowed to stack the SCOTUS with unqualified rightwing nutjobs so it was allowed an exemption. But, it certainly wasn't a constitutional exemption. Corporations aren't people and as such, they have no constitutional rights. Just because the GOP was able to appoint a number of incompetent and corrupt judges, doesn't change that. I'll believe that a corporation is a person when Texas executes one. Until that time, they're not people.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @03:38PM
Then where's the flood of other companies to emulate this cost saving?
Or paying for the pills themselves. Minimum wage is not no wage and birth control is not that expensive.
Except it turns out that they weren't legally obligate to pay for those birth control products.
The First Amendment and its prohibition against religious prosecution exists contrary to your assertion that there wasn't a constitutional exemption.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @05:24AM (18 children)
It is interesting that the same political party that moans about poor people having kids they can't afford also opposes abortion and birth control, isn't it?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:00AM (17 children)
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:06AM
(Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:16AM (14 children)
That is irrelevant. The real issue is complaining about both the pregnancies and the means to avoid them.
The reduction in unwanted pregnancies is probably due to birth control (including plan B) becoming more widely available in spite of the GOP.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:23AM (13 children)
(Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:28AM (11 children)
Irrelevant since those "minor evils" are on the rise, fully explaining the reduction in the "major evil".
But you knew that.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @07:19AM (10 children)
And you know that how? By evidence such as what I presented.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:34AM (9 children)
The ability to remember the last few years.
For example, plan B becoming OTC in 2013, the ACA becoming law, etc.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:47AM (8 children)
(Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:56AM (7 children)
Yes, we can indeed return to illegal coathanger abortions and a high rate of unwanted births among the poor. Apparently what you really hate is not getting to whine and moan about poor people having babies they can't afford. Is that what you really hope for?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @09:08AM (6 children)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @09:20AM (5 children)
Unless you are trying to deny that plan B became OTC in 2013 (and has a non-zero rate of use) and that the ACA mandated insurance providing birth control (which only a few like Hobby Lobby deny after a bitter court battle), it is you that would need to provide evidence that somehow birth control doesn't have the ability to reduce unwanted births.
I know you may not want to admit to even yourself that your desire to make religious decisions for others is ultimately destructive to even your own stated goals WRT poor people having babies, but there it is.
I suspect you will now try to argue that up is down and black is white whenever it is necessary for you to not be wrong, as usual
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @02:28PM (4 children)
I haven't tried in the least to show that. My evidence shows the contrary.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:08PM (3 children)
So what's your point then?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:28PM (2 children)
Offering supporting evidence for an assertion is reason 101.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:47PM (1 child)
So you're basically posting irrelevant information. The GOP, as I said wants to oppose all of the above even though birth control is pretty much the only effective measure to reduce both abortion and having babies people can't afford.
So they oppose the problem AND they oppose the solution. They offer nothing in the way of an alternative solution that actually works. No wonder they get called the party of NO.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @05:18PM
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @11:44PM
Lol birth control as a minor evil? Khallow is a religious but in too of being a rwnj! Damn khallow, just when I thought you couldn't surprise me further.
(Score: 1) by Behindmyscreen on Saturday March 03 2018, @05:54PM
you know why they have declined over all (but increased in bible thumping states)? Because of access to contraception, comprehensive sexual education, and more recently kids have more entertainment so they just don't have sex as much.....That still doesn't remove the fact that people have a right to choose without douche bag theocratic fucks deciding what they can and cannot do with their bodies.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:10AM (1 child)
Yeah, that's the NRA's job! And you are an idiot, khallow. A fluffly and potentially ammosexual idiot.
(Score: 0, Redundant) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:48AM