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posted by Fnord666 on Monday March 05 2018, @11:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the another-list dept.

Eleven U.S. states have pending animal abuse registry legislation:

Son of Sam, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and the Columbine High School shooters are among the infamous criminals who had a history of hurting animals before they went on to target humans, a tendency that's part of what's behind a movement to create public online registries of known animal abusers.

New York is among 11 states with animal abuse registry bills pending in their legislatures, following Tennessee, which started its in 2016 along with a growing number of municipalities in recent years, including New York City, and the counties that include Chicago and Tampa, Florida.

"Animal abuse is a bridge crime," said the sponsor of New York's bill, Republican state Sen. Jim Tedisco, who noted that Nikolas Cruz, accused of killing 17 people in the Parkland, Florida, high school shooting on Feb. 14, reportedly also had a history of shooting small animals.

While the main goal of collecting names of convicted animal abusers is to prevent them from being able to adopt or purchase other animals, registry backers say such lists could also be a way to raise red flags about people who may commit other violent crimes ranging from domestic violence to mass shootings. But some animal welfare advocates, mostly notably the ASPCA, question how effective they can really be.

[Ed's Comment - Original link unreliable, so I have added additional links]
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 05 2018, @11:56PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 05 2018, @11:56PM (#648263)

    I agree with such churches, despite being atheist. They are right, though for nonsense reasons.

    There isn't any "basic mammalian empathy". Watch a cat with a mouse and you'll learn. Tigers see you as food. Most mammals don't even have empathy for their own kind.

    Even if "basic mammalian empathy" were legitimate, I'm more than just a basic mammal. I can understand that non-human creatures are not of my type. I can serve them for dinner. I can take them apart to satisfy my curiosity. I can spray them to exterminate them in bulk.

    Humans, like so many other creatures, have evolved to make use of the available resources. Animals are resources to be used. Aside from the obvious safety issues, there is nothing wrong with picking one up (alive) and eating it like an apple.

    If somebody were to say he enjoyed animal torture, I would consider him crazy for multiple reasons. First, you shouldn't feel emotion when things (good or bad) happen to animals; this is a mental failing. Second, you shouldn't enjoy torture outside of revenge, not that I accept that torture can exist without a human victim. Third, sadly, one normally needs to be careful about admitting such things. :-)

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @12:05AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @12:05AM (#648264)

    "Second, you shouldn't enjoy torture outside of revenge, not that I accept that torture can exist without a human victim."

    Eeeesh, at least it is easy to see why you came up with #3. I see you are operating from the sociopathic human perspective. Some animals have more empathy than others, and natural predator instincts do override a good portion of empathy, but you are just oh-so-wrong with your simplistic assumptions.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @01:40AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @01:40AM (#648290)

      As a human with intelligence, you should rationally override any empathy you feel for animals. It is illogical. Wipe that defective emotion from your mind.

      One might as well feel empathy for the HP LaserJet 4 (or thereabouts) which gets beaten to death in the movie Office Space. Ow! The torture! We should make a list of printer abusers.

      Again, I don't show the normal sociopath signs. I'm not one to screw over my coworkers. I would not feel OK with defrauding a shopkeeper, for example with an unjustified return. I don't swipe unattended valuables, even if I know I can get away with it. I wouldn't cheat on my wife, even if I could get away with it, despite the fact that she is now middle-aged.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @05:19PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @05:19PM (#648566)

    "First, you shouldn't feel emotion when things (good or bad) happen to animals;"

    bullshit, motherfucker. animals are innocent. they deserve respect. it doesn't mean i won't kill one, but i try not to without good reason. humans who abuse their position against animals? fuck them and their lives. they ruin the world for everyone.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @05:53PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @05:53PM (#648588)

      There was a cat that shit in my garden. He's guilty. He needs punishment. I could build a little prison for him, but that is such a pain, and he's only a cat. Execution is better.