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posted by Fnord666 on Monday March 05 2018, @11:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the another-list dept.

Eleven U.S. states have pending animal abuse registry legislation:

Son of Sam, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and the Columbine High School shooters are among the infamous criminals who had a history of hurting animals before they went on to target humans, a tendency that's part of what's behind a movement to create public online registries of known animal abusers.

New York is among 11 states with animal abuse registry bills pending in their legislatures, following Tennessee, which started its in 2016 along with a growing number of municipalities in recent years, including New York City, and the counties that include Chicago and Tampa, Florida.

"Animal abuse is a bridge crime," said the sponsor of New York's bill, Republican state Sen. Jim Tedisco, who noted that Nikolas Cruz, accused of killing 17 people in the Parkland, Florida, high school shooting on Feb. 14, reportedly also had a history of shooting small animals.

While the main goal of collecting names of convicted animal abusers is to prevent them from being able to adopt or purchase other animals, registry backers say such lists could also be a way to raise red flags about people who may commit other violent crimes ranging from domestic violence to mass shootings. But some animal welfare advocates, mostly notably the ASPCA, question how effective they can really be.

[Ed's Comment - Original link unreliable, so I have added additional links]
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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday March 06 2018, @03:40PM (3 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @03:40PM (#648529) Journal

    That is a poor example. Not what I meant. What Huckabee did is EXACTLY what should be branded for life.

    I'm thinking of stupid mistakes, relatively harmless. Things that will be abused in order to force someone onto the list who should not be there. I don't have an example, but an analogy would be to become a registered sex offender for public urination.

    An example of an abuse of the system: Oh, you unintentionally ran over a squirrel -- it's the animal abuse registry for life for you buddy!

    If this kind of registry is created, it will be abused, unless some protections are built in. It seems like you cannot create any well intentioned mechanism without people trying to abuse it.

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  • (Score: 2) by ilPapa on Tuesday March 06 2018, @04:09PM (2 children)

    by ilPapa (2366) on Tuesday March 06 2018, @04:09PM (#648539) Journal

    What Huckabee did is EXACTLY what should be branded for life.

    That was kind of my point.

    The thing about intentionally hurting animals is that it has to be intentional. Otherwise, it's not intentional, you know? And yes, I would put hunters on the list.

    Sex offender registries can be easily fixed. Everybody likes to point to the tens of millions of people who get on those lists for merely urinating in public, but the legislature could have put in a "public urination is not a sex crime" clause into the law. Personally, I'd like to know if the guy who just moved into the apartment above the day care had been incarcerated for unintentionally raping and murdering a toddler while he was urinating in public. And I'd like to know if the young man buying an AR-15 with high-capacity magazines has done time for skinning cats and setting them on fire.

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    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday March 06 2018, @05:09PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @05:09PM (#648563) Journal

      I'd like to know if the young man buying an AR-15 with high-capacity magazines has done time for skinning cats and setting them on fire.

      Me too.

      I'd like to know if the guy who just moved into the apartment above the day care had been incarcerated for unintentionally raping and murdering a toddler while he was urinating in public.

      I would like to know if he was registered for raping and murdering a toddler. I think urinating in public is irrelevant.

      As for urinating in public. I am all for having a legal penalty for that. But I think being on a sex offender registry is ridiculous. I think it is somewhere between or near jaywalking and parking in the handicapped spot. Or BMW drivers thinking they are entitled to drive in the carpool lane (and urinate in public).

      the legislature could have put in a "public urination is not a sex crime" clause into the law.

      Nobody is going to accuse legislators of being bright, insightful, or thinking through the consequences of their actions. (Hence so many of them being accused of groping or worse.)

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @05:37PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @05:37PM (#648582)

      why? you think the government will protect you with bullshit lists , spies and pigs everywhere? you're a fucking slave. carry a pistol, like a free man (don't get a license/permit like a little groveling bitch) and defend yourself and your family like you're supposed to.