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posted by martyb on Tuesday March 06 2018, @06:58PM   Printer-friendly
from the still-have-a-long-way-to-go dept.

Naaman Zhou at The Guardian writes that Australia's free human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccination programme in schools has been highly successful. The International Papillomavirus Society calculates that within 40 years, the number of new cases of cervical cancer will become nearly negligible.

HPV (human papillomavirus) is a sexually transmitted infection that causes 99.9% of cervical cancers. In 2007, the federal government began providing the vaccine for free to girls aged 12-13 years, and in 2013, it extended the program to boys.

Girls and boys outside those ages but under 19 can also access two doses of the vaccine for free. In 2016, 78.6% of 15-year old girls and 72.9% of 15-year old boys had been vaccinated.

As a result, the HPV rate among women aged 18 to 24 dropped from 22.7% to 1.1% between 2005 and 2015.

Eradication is still a few decades out but within reach. The vaccinations are backed up by more advanced cervical screening tests, which are themselves highly successful in detecting high-risk HPV infections before they turn really bad.

Source : Australia could become first country to eradicate cervical cancer. The Guardian


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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @07:55PM (30 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @07:55PM (#648646)

    A quick googling yielded: "Each shot costs $130 to $150, for a total of around $390 to $450 for the series. "

    That's for a lifetime, right? If you can't pay that for your kid, then you shouldn't have had kids, and your kids should be taken away to be wards of the State.

    Also, rich people tend not to have HPV, because they're not filthy animals who can't restrain themselves.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by DannyB on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:14PM (4 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:14PM (#648656) Journal

    A quick googling yielded: "Each shot costs $130 to $150, for a total of around $390 to $450 for the series. "

    Interesting.

    That's for a lifetime, right? If you can't pay that for your kid, then you shouldn't have had kids, and your kids should be taken away to be wards of the State.

    Agree. But that assumes this strange little known concept called Responsibility. Of course, having a job an opportunity might result in some responsibility. Or at least occupy one from reproducing on a whim, because "I'm bored".

    Also, rich people tend not to have HPV, because they're not filthy animals who can't restrain themselves.

    Hilarious. Yeah, right.

    The rich are the worst of all because they don't have pesky distractions like having to think about where their next meal is coming from. Or the mythical 'consequences' that poor people talk about. At least we'll always have the virus that causes affluenza.

    Lack of consequences leads to lack of inhibition to conceal the worst aspects of humanity that most people would find shameful to exhibit.

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    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:20PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:20PM (#648659)

      According to your thinking, the "rich" are most likely to engage in risky, unsafe, diseased sex.

      Therefore, the "rich" are the ones who need to be targeted for this vaccine.

      And, the "rich" can pay for it themselves (as you say).

      Ergo, there's no problem.

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:55PM (2 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:55PM (#648683) Journal

        You derail from your own statement that the Rich can restrain themselves. (therefore don't get HPV)

        You ignore that I point out they are as human as everyone else, no better, but are sometimes unrestrained in showing the worst behavior. Because consequences. Or lack thereof.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:00PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:00PM (#648687)

          We can all see what was said. That is not what went down.

        • (Score: 2) by ilPapa on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:59PM

          by ilPapa (2366) on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:59PM (#648731) Journal

          You ignore that I point out they are as human as everyone else, no better

          There is substantial evidence that the rich are considerably less human than everyone else.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:20PM (11 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:20PM (#648660) Journal

    "Each shot costs $130 to $150, for a total of around $390 to $450 for the series. "

    That's for a lifetime, right?

    President Regan could have done a lot to stop, slow down, or merely educate about AIDS. For very little money. But the wrong people were getting it.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:26PM (#648662)

      Do you people even hear yourselves? You're nuts.

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @08:58PM (#648685)

      Do you people even hear yourselves? You're nuts.

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:09PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:09PM (#648694)

      Do you people even hear yourselves? You're nuts.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Spook brat on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:58PM

        by Spook brat (775) on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:58PM (#648730) Journal

        FYI, your repeated posts are being marked redundant per the moderation guidelines. [soylentnews.org] Please read the sections titled "What is a Good Comment? A Bad Comment?", and "Be original:".

        Feel free to continue posting whatever original content you like; as an AC you don't have Karma to worry about, so the troll mods you've been given for the first instance of your repeated messages are simply serving to tag the content type for easier identification. Insightful and informative comments will be given the appropriate tags as well, keep the posts coming.

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    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by VLM on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:41PM (6 children)

      by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:41PM (#648723)

      educate about AIDS

      I saw a documentary on that topic from PBS so its kinda leftist biased, but the summary is in the earliest days the .gov blew as much time and effort as they could and were told to fuck off by the gays who felt it was just persecution. The gays only came around and flipped to the other extreme after the death rate went insane high. When even the leftist documentaries look like that, the narrative that Reagan left them to die is pretty laughable.

      Its not even a good meme. The right hears that, knows the leftists are trying to guilt trip them, and replies with a nice short "good" or "wrong people is in the eye of the beholder" or whatever.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @10:07PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @10:07PM (#648733)

        That's not true. In the early days, they were focused only on the gay community, and basically used it to spur homophobia. The gay community is the only reason that the virus ever received any serious attention as the view by most folks was that it was just gays and drug users that were effected. It wasn't until years into the epidemic that anything meaningful was done about it.

        After years of protests and bringing it up again and again and again, eventually the government started taking it seriously.

        And no, the community was not responsible for holding research back for all those years.

        • (Score: 4, Informative) by HiThere on Tuesday March 06 2018, @11:37PM (1 child)

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @11:37PM (#648780) Journal

          That's both right and wrong. Many in the gay community were "committed" to indiscriminate sex (among willing partners). They were quite reluctant to accept advice on how to restrict the spread of AIDS. This isn't to say that they held back research, but they weren't willing to change dangerous patterns of behavior for quite awhile. So they (and needle sharing drug users) acted to significantly spread and intensify the AIDS epidemic for long after it became known.

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          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday March 07 2018, @04:06PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 07 2018, @04:06PM (#649036) Journal

            +1 informative, because I remember some of those attitudes and conversations. And, in retrospect, it seems that the gay attitude probably influenced hetero attitudes toward AIDS and homosexuality. In common street terms, "If the queers insist on trying to infect everyone they meet, then maybe AIDS really is God's punishment."

            I highly doubt that anyone could do serious research on it, but that is food for thought.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 07 2018, @04:52PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 07 2018, @04:52PM (#649058)

          yeah, they were focused on the gay community, all right. they seeded the hiv with the hepatitis vaccines. why do you think it was intravenous drug users and homosexuals who contracted the virus originally? they were eating monkeys or some shit?

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by ilPapa on Tuesday March 06 2018, @10:07PM (1 child)

        by ilPapa (2366) on Tuesday March 06 2018, @10:07PM (#648734) Journal

        but the summary is in the earliest days the .gov blew as much time and effort as they could and were told to fuck off by the gays who felt it was just persecution

        That is horseshit.

        https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9828348/ronald-reagan-hiv-aids [vox.com]

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/11/nancy-ronald-reagan-aids-crisis-first-lady-legacy [theguardian.com]

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2015/12/01/a-disturbing-new-glimpse-at-the-reagan-administrations-indifference-to-aids/?utm_term=.5da97d04537b [washingtonpost.com]

        And thirty-plus years later, the GOP is still complete shit when it comes to AIDS:

        https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/under-pences-leadership-response-to-heroin-epidemic-criticized-as-ineffective-226759 [politico.com]

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        • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @10:29PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @10:29PM (#648741)

          Don't mind VLM, he is the resident neo-nazi-lite. He spews mind numbingly bad information and believes there is a conspiracy to keep whitey down.

          TL:DR just mod down and move on

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:01PM (12 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:01PM (#648689) Journal

    A quick googling yielded: "Each shot costs $130 to $150, for a total of around $390 to $450 for the series. "

    Even if this could be made freely available to teens in the US which seems unlikely . . . Good thing then that there are people who would want to make it illegal for kids to get this without their parents' consent or knowledge. That would prevent the parent from exercising some kind of right.

    Hopefully most kids would have no reason to hide the fact that they get a vaccination.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:07PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:07PM (#648692)

      Indeed, parents are allowed to cut a chunk of flesh from the sexual organ of a completely healthy child.

    • (Score: 2) by Spook brat on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:40PM (7 children)

      by Spook brat (775) on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:40PM (#648721) Journal

      <sarcasm>Good thing then that there are people who would want to make it illegal for kids to get this without their parents' consent or knowledge. That would prevent the parent from exercising some kind of right.</sarcasm>

      (sarcasm tag added for clarity)

      That is one of the most interesting statements I've read in a long time, and I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm worried that anything I say will be a strawman attack, since I honestly don't comprehend your position. I'm going to lay out what the situation is as I see it; would you please explain where you see me going wrong?

      Assumption: adults are competent to judge what medical procedures they want to receive in order to keep themselves healthy, and are responsible for their own health care.
      Assumption: children are not competent to judge what care they need, and a responsible adult needs to oversee their care to keep the children healthy.
      Observation: responsibility without authority is meaningless, therefore a child's legal guardians are granted authority to oversee all aspects of the child's medical care, including what care to reject. The guardians are held accountable legally for the outcomes of these decisions (neglect/abuse are both crimes and are prosecuted).
      Observation: while different people mature at different rates, the law needs some way to distinguish adults from children, and imposes arbitrary (and unavoidably faulty for everyone) thresholds for emancipation into adulthood. Despite being arbitrary and universally unfair for the child, this clarifies and limits the accountability of the guardian: full responsibility and authority until the child reaches age of majority.

      In the framework I just described, what legal guardian wouldn't be freaked out by hearing that someone injected something into their child without consulting the guardian? Would allowing such a thing make the guardian guilty of neglect?

      Please explain what part of the above you think is inappropriate, because it's obvious you think there's some problem with it, and I can't fathom what it should be.

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      • (Score: 2, Troll) by VLM on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:50PM (5 children)

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @09:50PM (#648726)

        As a practical matter all vaccines have side effects up to and including death, admittedly at low rates.

        "We don't have to tell you that there's a 1 in 1e7 chance your kid would end up dead, so we didn't, so tough cookies, have a nice funeral" seems a weird protocol.

        Also any parent knows the nightmare of getting school to not stand in the way of simple prescription medicines, but this gets a free pass, in fact its mandatory, because of a tangential relationship to whore like sex. You need a doctors note to administer freaking advil but this will be forced into your kids like it or not, which is just a little inconsistent.

        Another oddity is the three hour parent and child concussion training and waiver form I have to sign for all sports including, I kid you not, track and field. But this is tangentially related to whore like sex lifestyle so you will not be informed nor require consent.

        You can hand wave around all the poor impoverished kid sex stuff and with careful propaganda techniques it can be made to seem seems rational or crazy to oppose, but in comparison to other school relationships with medicine or school relationships with medical issues and consent, its totally bizarre.

        • (Score: 2) by Spook brat on Tuesday March 06 2018, @10:01PM (4 children)

          by Spook brat (775) on Tuesday March 06 2018, @10:01PM (#648732) Journal

          You can hand wave around all the poor impoverished kid sex stuff and with careful propaganda techniques it can be made to seem seems rational or crazy to oppose, but in comparison to other school relationships with medicine or school relationships with medical issues and consent, its totally bizarre.

          Exactly, which is why I'm confused by DannyB's apparent displeasure that there are people lobbying to allow parents to maintain their medical authority over their children.

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          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday March 06 2018, @11:04PM

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @11:04PM (#648765) Journal

            I'm not too displeased with it seriously. It is the edge and corner cases I'm thinking of. Really, there are just some people who should not be parents.

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          • (Score: 2) by dry on Wednesday March 07 2018, @04:11AM (2 children)

            by dry (223) on Wednesday March 07 2018, @04:11AM (#648867) Journal

            There are people refusing any types of vaccinations for their kids in a world where herd immunity is a real thing.
            There are people feeding their kids bleach because, despite all evidence, they belief it is healthy.
            There are people who refuse blood transfusions for their kids when it is a matter of life and death due to some words in a book.
            There are people that instead of taking their really sick kid to a doctor, use a (bad) herbalist or other weird practitioners of so called healthcare.
            There are even people who tie their kids up in a cellar or closet, barely feed them and give no medical care.

            At what point does society interfere with these and similar practices? Wait until the kid is dead and charge them with neglect or failing to provide the necessities of life?
            It's a hard problem as parents/guardians should be largely free to raise their children how they like but children shouldn't be abused.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 07 2018, @12:47PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 07 2018, @12:47PM (#648966)

              VLM feeds his kids bleach. He wants them to be white inside and out.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 07 2018, @04:55PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 07 2018, @04:55PM (#649062)

              other people's kids are not your business. fuck off.

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday March 06 2018, @11:07PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @11:07PM (#648769) Journal

        I think you are right. I think that is the right place to put things.

        But there are some bad parents that have kids more responsible than the parents are.

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    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Tuesday March 06 2018, @11:42PM

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 06 2018, @11:42PM (#648784) Journal

      To clarify what I believe to be your point:
      Unless the vaccine has been improved, it is only effective before you are exposed to the virus. So to be maximally effective, the vaccine needs to be given before the first sexual encounter. I'm not sure why they decided on 10 years rather than 2 years, but there's probably some reason. One reason might be that it's only effective for a few years after being given unless it's reinforced by exposure to the virus, but that's a guess...some vaccines work that way (see tetanus).

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Wednesday March 07 2018, @01:28AM (1 child)

      by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Wednesday March 07 2018, @01:28AM (#648812) Homepage Journal

      A quick googling yielded: "Each shot costs $130 to $150, for a total of around $390 to $450 for the series. "

      Even if this could be made freely available to teens in the US which seems unlikely . . . Good thing then that there are people who would want to make it illegal for kids to get this without their parents' consent or knowledge. That would prevent the parent from exercising some kind of right.

      Hopefully most kids would have no reason to hide the fact that they get a vaccination.

      It is widely available in the US. Most kids get it from their doctors. Especially as more people have insurance these days.

      What's more, putting your kids at risk of getting cancer is bad parenting. Irresponsible at best and neglect at worst.

      There's absolutely no reason to "hide" anything, unless there's something shameful about not wanting to contract cancer. Is there something shameful about that? I don't think so.

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      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 07 2018, @05:00PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 07 2018, @05:00PM (#649068)

        "What's more, putting your kids at risk of getting cancer is bad parenting. Irresponsible at best and neglect at worst."

        as if you know what's even in the fucking vaccine. are you retarded? or you're just a groveling slave who thinks kissing up to the medical establishment makes him modern and sophisticated? you think you're going to get an extra slave star on your folder? they're just going to let you be further up the slaughter line (right after your trusting kids), you dumb ass, bleating sheep.