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posted by martyb on Thursday March 08 2018, @10:29PM   Printer-friendly
from the Kessler-syndrome dept.

An arXiv preprint suggests that evidence of intelligent (or trashy) life could be found by looking for space junk:

Its author, Héctor Socas-Navarro, spends most of his time at the Canary Islands Institute of Astrophysics in Spain studying the sun. But he was struck by a weird side effect of the ring of active and retired satellites circling Earth: it's a little bit opaque. And the more satellites we throw up there, the more opaque it gets. He realized that if we—or any technologically advanced aliens out there—build enough satellites, they'll eventually become dense enough to leave a faint shadow around the planet when it passes in front of a star.

And that's awfully convenient given that one of the best ways we have of spotting alien planets is by staring at their stars and waiting for tiny dips in brightness as planets pass in front of them. Essentially, Socas-Navarro's new paper proposes, if aliens have put enough satellites into orbit around their planet, we'll be able to spot the faintly opaque bubble before and after we spot the brightness dip of the planet itself.

The scale of the endeavor would be a real challenge for the aliens, however, since this idea relies on between 10 billion and one trillion satellites. "It's like building the pyramids," Avi Loeb, an astronomer at Harvard University, told New Scientist. "Each building block is easy, but putting it together is the hard engineering task."


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 08 2018, @10:36PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 08 2018, @10:36PM (#649744)

    Only technologically primitive aliens will be detectable during the brief period in their development between inventing orbital launch capability and inventing methods of recycling space junk.

    Just like Hitler's TV broadcasts leaked RF radiation into space because Trump's Twitter account didn't exist yet.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday March 08 2018, @10:49PM (8 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday March 08 2018, @10:49PM (#649749) Journal

    Just like Hitler's TV broadcasts leaked RF radiation into space because Trump's Twitter account didn't exist yet.

    https://www.space.com/17151-alien-wow-signal-response.html [space.com]

    Just in case any aliens out there in the universe are listening, more than 10,000 Twitter messages, plus videos from celebrities such as comedian Stephen Colbert, have been beamed into space as a big "Hello!" from Earth.

    [...] A project directed by the National Geographic Channel and Arecibo Observatory beamed a package of digital information out to the heavens on Wednesday (Aug. 15) containing Twitter messages from the public, submitted via the hashtag #ChasingUFOs, as well as videos from celebrities such as Stephen Colbert, Jorge Garcia, and Leila Lopes, the 2011 Miss Universe.

    http://tweetsinspace.org [tweetsinspace.org]

    During the 30-minute performance, we collected all tweets with our custom #tweetsinspace tag. More than 50 press articles – including the NY Daily News, BBC, Time, Wired and Scientific American – led to worldwide participation, where we gathered over 1500 texts, about 1 tweet per second. These messages ranged from simple greetings to aliens, to worries about the destruction of Earth, to questions of extraterrestrial social and economic systems. Together and as a people, we asked questions, requested photos, and begged forgiveness for humanity’s flaws. In the various threads of ongoing conversation, the most commonly used words (other than articles like ‘the’) were please and love, followed by hello, here, help, and peace. All these voices together express existential feelings of wonder and fear, curiosity and happiness, hope and cynicism, and more.

    [...] On November 28th, 2012, all Tweets in Space messages were transmitted via both analog and digital signals towards our target planet, using a high amplitude, high frequency radio telescope.

    https://www.sapiens.org/column/wanderers/messaging-to-extraterrestrial-intelligence/ [sapiens.org]

    Perhaps the Microsoft programmers who created Tay assumed that by interacting with humans online and conducting related internet searches, the artificial intelligence would reflect an idealized image of humanity and how we communicate. Instead Tay showed us the worst of humanity’s prejudice, hatred, and bigotry. Tay is a reminder that we may not have as much control over the messages we do send to extraterrestrial life and that we may, in fact, already be sending a message.

    Like Tay interacting with people on Twitter, extraterrestrials won’t only see what we intend them to see. They will see all of us—everything we do and say, our entire planet, the full range of what it is to be human. They will see our bigotry, hatred, cooperation, and care—our wars, love, power struggles, artworks, stories, songs, and bombs. Just as Tay didn’t see only the good in online discussions, we may not be able to send extraterrestrials a message that represents only the best of our traditions, behaviors, actions, and ideas.

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    • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 08 2018, @10:56PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 08 2018, @10:56PM (#649750)

      Space Jews are black on the left side.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Grishnakh on Thursday March 08 2018, @11:13PM (2 children)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday March 08 2018, @11:13PM (#649763)

      Perhaps the Microsoft programmers who created Tay assumed that by interacting with humans online and conducting related internet searches, the artificial intelligence would reflect an idealized image of humanity and how we communicate. Instead Tay showed us the worst of humanity’s prejudice, hatred, and bigotry.

      This is BS. Tay was a creation of Microsoft, and as such was an official speaker for MS, and showed us exactly what that company stands for. If you buy from Microsoft, you're supporting a company that really believes that Hitler did nothing wrong. They said it themselves. Do you want your money going to such a company?

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by toddestan on Friday March 09 2018, @03:33AM (1 child)

        by toddestan (4982) on Friday March 09 2018, @03:33AM (#649833)

        This is BS. Tay was a creation of Microsoft, and as such was an official speaker for MS, and showed us exactly what that company stands for. If you buy from Microsoft, you're supporting a company that really believes that Hitler did nothing wrong. They said it themselves. Do you want your money going to such a company?

        You think that is bad? You should see some of the search results that Bing will return! I mean, it's on a website that is operated by Microsoft, so these results pages clearly represent what Microsoft believes! Would you want your money going to such a company?

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday March 08 2018, @11:18PM (1 child)

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday March 08 2018, @11:18PM (#649766)

      > On November 28th, 2012, all Tweets in Space messages were transmitted via both analog and digital signals
      > towards our target planet, using a high amplitude, high frequency radio telescope.

      I was gonna rant about the stupidity of both twitter and a one-time transmission, going over the mind-bogglingly ridiculous odds of anyone anywhere capturing and decoding it. I guess someone has money to burn in this post-scarcity world of ours.

      But instead, I just need to point out it's not fair to cut off just before the most enlighting part of the release:

      These “twitters” are stretched across all time and space as a reflection on the contemporary phenomenon of the “status” updates we broadcast, both literal and metaphoric. Our stellar discussion will outlive all its original participants, endlessly reverberating themes of connectivity, humility, and optimism for the future.

      Artsy pseudo-philosophical bullshit, then... move along, scientific considerations.