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posted by janrinok on Saturday March 10 2018, @06:04AM   Printer-friendly
from the countdown-to-new-regulations? dept.

A "personal drone" that crashed and burst into flames was the cause of the Kendrick Fire, a 335 acre fire in the Coconino National Forest (wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconino_National_Forest) in northern Arizona, USA. Coconino National Forest spokesman George Jozens said that about 30 firefighters from the U.S. Forest Service and Summit Fire and Medical worked to quell the fire.

Article: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2018/03/06/personal-drone-sparks-335-acre-wildfire-north-flagstaff/401493002/


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  • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Saturday March 10 2018, @06:23PM (13 children)

    Garbage can fires are propaganda from the "Department of Healthier State Resource Investments and Soros Fund." Everyone knows no one actually throws away a cigarette that's still not finished (except for girls, aaaah), and even then, there's been no research saying butts are hot enough to ignite other combustibles. In-fact, I can find not one study, not one reference that studies this point. You're more likely to get a face full of shrapnel from an e-vape, than getting your BK wrappers light on fire in the trash from a stray butt.

    Go on, purchase an AL85 and hold your thumb on the battery cap while you drag. Your hair will catch fire sooner than a butt will cause an arson prosecution!

  • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Saturday March 10 2018, @06:32PM (10 children)

    by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Saturday March 10 2018, @06:32PM (#650589) Journal

    Propaganda or not I personally was present and witnessed the results of both of the cigarette originated fires I described above.

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    • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Saturday March 10 2018, @07:32PM (9 children)

      Nonsense. Citation required!
      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 10 2018, @08:35PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 10 2018, @08:35PM (#650627)

        Styrofoam and a cig ember will start a fire. Every time I've seen a garbage can fire that was the cause.

      • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Saturday March 10 2018, @10:32PM (6 children)

        by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Saturday March 10 2018, @10:32PM (#650662) Journal

        Citation required ?!?! Are you fsck'n stupid ? I am my personal citation. I am not speaking of some remote event I am speaking something I personally witnessed and endured. If you don't want to believe it that is your problem Trumplestiltskin.

        Here is a credible source of information regarding the phenomenon but it is unlikely that you will believe it. It is likely that you would be screaming "Fake News" as you were immolated by a fire caused by a cigarette...

        https://www.nfpa.org/public-education/by-topic/top-causes-of-fire/smoking [nfpa.org]

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        • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Saturday March 10 2018, @11:33PM (5 children)

          Hmmm. I did read your sources, while I am not satisfied with a completely biased source (National Fire Protection Association -- might as well be from 'Truth' Anti Tobacco Organization), I will concede that it is more than just a dumb fact sheet for public school children. However, your sources prove me to be correct, instead of you.

          The long-term trend in smoking-material fires has been down, by 73% from 1980 to 2011, helped by the decline in smoking, the effect of standards and regulations that have made mattresses and upholstered furniture more resistant to cigarette ignition, and more recently, the adaption of fire-safe cigarette requirements throughout the country.

          Reduced ignition strength ("fire safe") cigarettes appear to be the principal reason for a 30% decline in smoking-material fire deaths from 2003-2011. Canada and all U.S. states have passed laws or other requirements that all cigarettes sold must have sharply reduced ignition strength (ability to start fires), as determined by ASTM Standard E2187-04

          Source [nfpa.org]

          If your anecdote was from a non first world country or if this was long ago, I would say there's nothing more for us to discuss. But, if this was recent, your brother may be a member of the "Arsonist Underground," and carries strong ignition cigarettes to do damage covertly. It's not my place to say this, but I recommend having a sit down, perhaps with a police officer nearby. Those AUs are "firestarters" as they like to call themselves, when in reality they're just bipolar maniacs.

          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday March 11 2018, @11:20AM

            by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Sunday March 11 2018, @11:20AM (#650885) Homepage
            You seem to have read a "less" and interpreted it as "not".
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          • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:43PM (3 children)

            by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:43PM (#651027) Journal

            There was never anything for us to discuss in the first place. I was present and responsible for extinguishing the fire in my garage, and my GF did the same for the second fire. If you choose to believe or disbelieve that is your choice. You can live your life in a state of total denial or not. It is not my concern. I am convinced you'd deny the truth as you burned up, but again, not my concern.

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            • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:38PM (2 children)

              I'll dump a box full of smoldering cigarrette butts on a total-body burn ward patient if it will quell your delusions.
              • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:56PM (1 child)

                by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:56PM (#651064) Journal

                How would that address the issue in question ? A human body is in no way shape or form close to a trash can full of potentially flammable stuff. You've gone beyond reaching to just proving what a corn hole you are to everyone else...

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  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday March 11 2018, @10:06AM (1 child)

    by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Sunday March 11 2018, @10:06AM (#650874) Homepage
    Hey, you forgot your script - it's "smoking doesn't increase risks of cancer", or "smoking doesn't increase risks of heart disease", or "smoking is not addictive".

    And I too have seen bins asmoulder, do you think it's the packs of gummi bears that are to blame for that? I'm sure Phillip Morris would support you on that one, given their history.
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