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posted by janrinok on Saturday March 10 2018, @06:04AM   Printer-friendly
from the countdown-to-new-regulations? dept.

A "personal drone" that crashed and burst into flames was the cause of the Kendrick Fire, a 335 acre fire in the Coconino National Forest (wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconino_National_Forest) in northern Arizona, USA. Coconino National Forest spokesman George Jozens said that about 30 firefighters from the U.S. Forest Service and Summit Fire and Medical worked to quell the fire.

Article: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2018/03/06/personal-drone-sparks-335-acre-wildfire-north-flagstaff/401493002/


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  • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Saturday March 10 2018, @11:33PM (5 children)

    Hmmm. I did read your sources, while I am not satisfied with a completely biased source (National Fire Protection Association -- might as well be from 'Truth' Anti Tobacco Organization), I will concede that it is more than just a dumb fact sheet for public school children. However, your sources prove me to be correct, instead of you.

    The long-term trend in smoking-material fires has been down, by 73% from 1980 to 2011, helped by the decline in smoking, the effect of standards and regulations that have made mattresses and upholstered furniture more resistant to cigarette ignition, and more recently, the adaption of fire-safe cigarette requirements throughout the country.

    Reduced ignition strength ("fire safe") cigarettes appear to be the principal reason for a 30% decline in smoking-material fire deaths from 2003-2011. Canada and all U.S. states have passed laws or other requirements that all cigarettes sold must have sharply reduced ignition strength (ability to start fires), as determined by ASTM Standard E2187-04

    Source [nfpa.org]

    If your anecdote was from a non first world country or if this was long ago, I would say there's nothing more for us to discuss. But, if this was recent, your brother may be a member of the "Arsonist Underground," and carries strong ignition cigarettes to do damage covertly. It's not my place to say this, but I recommend having a sit down, perhaps with a police officer nearby. Those AUs are "firestarters" as they like to call themselves, when in reality they're just bipolar maniacs.

  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday March 11 2018, @11:20AM

    by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Sunday March 11 2018, @11:20AM (#650885) Homepage
    You seem to have read a "less" and interpreted it as "not".
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  • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:43PM (3 children)

    by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:43PM (#651027) Journal

    There was never anything for us to discuss in the first place. I was present and responsible for extinguishing the fire in my garage, and my GF did the same for the second fire. If you choose to believe or disbelieve that is your choice. You can live your life in a state of total denial or not. It is not my concern. I am convinced you'd deny the truth as you burned up, but again, not my concern.

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    • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:38PM (2 children)

      I'll dump a box full of smoldering cigarrette butts on a total-body burn ward patient if it will quell your delusions.
      • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:56PM (1 child)

        by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:56PM (#651064) Journal

        How would that address the issue in question ? A human body is in no way shape or form close to a trash can full of potentially flammable stuff. You've gone beyond reaching to just proving what a corn hole you are to everyone else...

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