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posted by janrinok on Sunday March 11 2018, @01:42AM   Printer-friendly
from the life-goes-on dept.

The renamed TPP, the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership has been signed by 11 countries. https://globalnews.ca/news/4069924/tpp-trans-pacific-partnership-signing-canada/

Thankfully, Trump's withdrawal from the TPP allowed the Canadian people to persuade their government to push for removal of most of the contentious IP obligations that the US demanded, http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2017/11/rethinking-ip-in-the-tpp/. America is considering rejoining, https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/us/politics/mnuchin-tpp-trans-pacific-partnership-trump.html

The Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) will reduce tariffs in countries that together amount to more than 13 per cent of the global economy – a total of $10 trillion. With the United States, it would have represented 40 per cent.

Even without the United States, the deal will span a market of nearly 500 million people, making it one of the globe's three largest trade agreements, according to Chilean and Canadian trade statistics.

[...] Trump has also threatened to dump the North American Free Trade Agreement unless the other two members of the pact, Canada and Mexico, agree to provisions that Trump says would boost U.S. manufacturing and employment. He argues that the 1994 accord has caused the migration of jobs and factories southward to lower-cost Mexico.

[...] The 11 member countries are Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam.


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  • (Score: 2) by jb on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:39AM (2 children)

    by jb (338) on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:39AM (#650802)

    You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that the the AU, CA & JP governments didn't support those provisions. Remember attribution notes in the negotiating draft of the IP Chapter that was leaked a few years ago? They made it pretty clear that US was not the only Party pushing those provisions.

    If AU, CA & JP genuinely didn't want those provisions to make it in, after the US withdrawal they'd have dispensed with them altogether in CPTPP (and the other 8 Parties would not have been likely to object).

    "Suspending" those provisions instead is an obvious & transparent ploy -- designed to make CPTPP easier to sell to the people at home up front, which in turn makes it easier to use a subsequent US return as a convenient excuse to "unsuspend" them again.

    In order to approve the provisions, the US state department will need to put together 13 different teams to individually negotiate with each nation on each provision

    Unfortunately it wouldn't be the US State Department, it'd be the USTR. That's right, the US lets its industry do much of its trade negotiation ... whereas here in AU (and in the other 10 Parties) industry is expected to sit in the dark like mushrooms and pretend that it's somehow possible to our government to represent our views on a deal we don't even get to see until negotiations have already concluded...

    2. Will demand a price for every provision but won't have to give up on anything since the treaty was already signed so the US can't negotiate terms elsewhere in the treaty.

    They could try, but they'd fail. The "price" the US offers is bringing with it a market that's far larger than any other TPP Party -- and that's the stick that USTR always wields: won't be any different on accession than it was during the original negotiations.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @09:38AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @09:38AM (#650867)

    The "price" the US offers is bringing with it a market that's far larger than any other TPP Party -- and that's the stick that USTR always wields: won't be any different on accession than it was during the original negotiations.

    The PURPOSE of TPP was to put pressure on China economically while increasing importance of US. So, talk about cutting one's nose off to spite the face. Thanks to Trump, US is becoming less and less relevant in Asia.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:03PM (#650992)

      The purpose of the TPP was corporate supremacy under the guise of free trade. You have foolishly bought into the lies.