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Eight members of a German far-right group were sentenced to jail Wednesday on terrorism and attempted murder charges for a series of explosives attacks targeting refugees and anti-fascist activists.
Based in Germany's ex-communist east, the so-called "Freital group" had sought to create "a climate of fear" at the height of Germany's refugee and migrant influx in 2015, the court was told.
Its leaders Timo Schulz and Patrick Festing were sentenced to 10 and nine-and-a-half years prison respectively. The other six received custodial terms of between four and eight-and-a-half years.
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The Official Colorado State Vegetable is now the "state legislator".
(Score: 1, Disagree) by khallow on Monday March 12 2018, @05:09AM (19 children)
"IF". Doesn't apply to Germany's situation.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday March 12 2018, @05:13AM (18 children)
You're right. I should have said "When".
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Monday March 12 2018, @05:24AM (17 children)
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Reziac on Monday March 12 2018, @05:46AM (14 children)
No disagreement on the background (heard the same re the mess starting with Greece) but ...
"But it's not the immigrants' fault for taking advantage of the situation."
Maybe not, but it IS immigrants' fault if they behave like savages, leading to precisely the topic we discuss today.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 12 2018, @07:05AM
Um, it is the dummkopf racist Germans that are behaving like savages, or, like Germans.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday March 12 2018, @07:12AM (12 children)
Hmmm...let's see. Who was it that was just convicted of a series of bombings intended to create "a climate of fear" among a targeted group?
It must have been those nasty Muslim "invaders," right? Not so much.
The only folks "acting like savages" in the topic we discuss today are German nationals. Do you also blame rape/assault/robbery victims for getting raped/assaulted/robbed?
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday March 12 2018, @07:38AM (11 children)
...in the topic we discuss today. Maybe we should discuss which behavior said topic is in reaction to.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Monday March 12 2018, @07:52AM (10 children)
"the topic we discuss today" were your words, not mine.
I guess you want to change topics because you'd prefer not to talk about the bunch of bloodthirsty scumbage who *terrorized* communities. Is that it?
I've got a news flash for you Adolph. Terrorist tactics are *never* justified.
You want to protest? Great! You want to speak your mind and be heard. Rock on!
But trying to kill/maim random people because you don't like that they worship the same god in a different way and/or because of their skins' melanin content? that's criminal.
And make no mistake, those murderous (no, they didn't actually kill anyone, thank goodness, but they sure tried) scumbags are just common criminals who deserve to be treated as such.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 12 2018, @08:42AM (2 children)
I'm not even going to be offended that the invaders want to kill me. I expect it. I wish to return fire.
Germany may experience what Rwanda experienced. I think the invaders will win.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Monday March 12 2018, @08:57AM
You're exactly the type of scumbag I referred to in another comment [soylentnews.org].
You're a cowardly piece of shit and you'd never "return fire." Not that anyone is actually shooting at you.
The only times you'd get involved in something like that is if you had 10 other guys with you and there was one or two old men or teenage girls you could beat to death.
Or if you cold-cocked [wiktionary.org] someone with a bat or a bottle without warning from behind.
And you'd then consider yourself a "brave hero" for standing up to the evil darkies.
But you're not. You're a cowardly piece of shit who doesn't even have the intestinal fortitude to post with a pseudonymous name on the Internet.
How pathetic is that?
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday March 12 2018, @05:23PM
From who? It's time for a reality check here. There's no credible threat of genocide here from the "invaders". Nor are immigrants invaders. I get you have feelz about this, but you're talking about at the least deporting a bunch of people who have done nothing wrong. At worst, you talking about murdering innocent people (as this group attempted on one occasion).
Just fix immigration. There's no need for hysterics.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 12 2018, @06:08PM (1 child)
> I've got a news flash for you Adolph.
Good job ceding the high ground. Care to reload while you got one foot left?
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday March 12 2018, @07:46PM
Hmm...That guy is defending terrorist violence and *i'm* ceding the high ground? That's rich!
Supporting criminals convicted of murder/violence against imagined "invaders" of Germany? I think the analogy was quite apt.
Shall I call you Joey or Hermann? Perhaps Klaus?
Tschuss!
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 13 2018, @01:52AM (4 children)
> But trying to kill/maim random people because you don't like that they worship the same god in a different way and/or because of their skins' melanin content? that's criminal.
That's dar es salam. [wordpress.com]. The Muslims really go at each other's throats when they are nearly 100% of the population and there is only Islam. Before that, there is also war with any remaining non-Muslims [thereligionofpeace.com] as a distraction.
When the concentration is lower at 80% you can expect state-run ethnic cleansing and genocide, like you see in Egypt, Turkey, Iran, and more.
When the concentration is even lower at 60%, you get all that but only sporadically. Jizya is forced then if not sooner.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Tuesday March 13 2018, @02:38AM (3 children)
I'm sorry. When exactly did this happen? [wikipedia.org] It seems to me that Muslim and non-muslim countries are pretty bloodthirsty, and there has been plenty of ethnic cleansing on all sides. Your straw man is on fire.
There is no such thing as jizya [wikipedia.org] any more. Your straw man has burned to ash.
For the record, it took me more time to format this post than it did to gather *factual* information which is in direct opposition to the bullshit you're spewing.
You're not very bright, are you? Which explains a lot. I feel pity for you.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 14 2018, @01:18AM (2 children)
assyrians
copts
armenians
west papuans
east timor
south sudanese
ibo
bangladesh
and what is going on in iraq, syria, yemen at the moment
for the record, it took me more time to format this post than it did to gather *factual* information which is in direct opposition to the bullshit you're spewing.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 14 2018, @02:21AM (1 child)
You're just cherry picking,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_cleansing_campaigns [wikipedia.org]
Why don't you go burn a cross or something?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 17 2018, @01:48AM
survey says .... bzzzt
1 tu quoque
2 a hominem
you lose
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 12 2018, @11:04AM
I have seen that policy first hand. Germany and Germans suffer because, like most of the suffering in this world, they want what they cannot have. In this case, they don't want to do research on the people they are inviting inside their country. They don't want to put money in teaching these people their language, and they don't want to train their citizens for the upcoming change in their society. What they want is to wave the magic wand and have all the laborers they are running short of. USA has done wonders inviting Asians/Indians to the country, but Germany has almost no need for intelligent citizens. Unfortunately, the times have changed since so many decades and current Syrian refugees are not the same as Turkish immigrants who just want to sit tight, pray 5 times a day and do the dirty job. The world is interconnected and every tom dick and harry carries internet access in the pocket and dreams of just deserves.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 13 2018, @08:23PM
I agree with this. I think these "far right" groups need to kill their own politicians first. Like... skin them alive and hang them from a bridge. Film the whole thing and put it on thepiratebay. Show these scum that they can't get away with this shit forever. Merkel's fat ass first.