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Oklahoma plans to start carrying out executions with nitrogen gas, a method that has never been used in the U.S. but that some states have already approved amid difficulties with lethal injections.
At a news conference Wednesday, Oklahoma Atty. Gen. Mike Hunter and Corrections Director Joe M. Allbaugh said that over the next few months the state would develop a protocol for using nitrogen.
[...] In recent years, Oklahoma and other states have struggled to obtain the drugs needed for lethal injections, the most common execution method but one that has increasingly faced scrutiny.
In 2015, a state court put a moratorium on executions in Oklahoma after a series of botched executions, including one in which an inmate convulsed for 43 minutes before dying and another in which the wrong drug was administered.
Oklahoma is poised to become the first state to use nitrogen gas in executions
(Score: 4, Touché) by c0lo on Friday March 16 2018, @03:48AM (14 children)
Like it is right now expect you don't pay all the lawyers and judges up to the Supreme Court for 15 years or more [deathpenaltyinfo.org] of appeals while they wait on the death row.
And, man, aren't those law critters expensive if their cost if higher than keeping the convict locked for life?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 16 2018, @04:49AM (10 children)
So you're telling me they need high powered expensive lawyers too, sure I guess you could try to squeeze some money out of a dead man (even though somebody is ultimately paying for it).
Why not just get it over with then? Isn't that the whole point of capital punishment?
(Score: 2) by LVDOVICVS on Friday March 16 2018, @05:06AM (1 child)
The "point" isn't capital punishment. We have a legal system where everyone is entitled to a fair trial with adequate representation and the right to appeal. The "point" is justice.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 16 2018, @06:22AM
That would be the trial resulting in capital punishment as the verdict, or are you backing out now after condemning the guilty to death?
(Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Friday March 16 2018, @05:14AM (6 children)
Why bother with trials or evidence or proof? For that matter, why even bother with mere accusation? Let's just have cops running around shooting random people. (well, I guess we should say "shooting random people MORE OFTEN.")
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 16 2018, @06:20AM (5 children)
Nice try, but there was already a trial, it resulted in capital punishment.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday March 16 2018, @07:06AM (4 children)
Have you ever heard of appeals?
If positive, do you think the appeals serve no purpose in your idea of society?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 16 2018, @07:25AM (3 children)
Why would there be any appeal at all? You have just condemned a person to death as punishment. Do you think capital punishments are given willy-nilly?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Friday March 16 2018, @07:30AM (1 child)
In enough many case, yes.
Doesn't happen in the universe you live in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 16 2018, @08:04AM
No, teenagers, women and tourists all face the death equally if convicted of a serious crime with capital punishment, with no possibility of appeal even if it raises a diplomatic row.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 16 2018, @01:59PM
Actually, Willy, yes. Sometimes they are. I'm with you, so far as your valid point goes. We waste an awful lot of time and effort on the appeals processes. It often seems there are to many appeals, and to many people have nothing better to do, than dream up new appeals. Sumbitch raped and butchered a little girl who hadn't even tasted puberty yet - he shouldn't be alive twenty years later. But - there really are proper appeals. And, sometimes, it is discovered that the cops got the wrong man. I've never bothered to try real hard figuring out how often they get the wrong man - but it does happen.
We need appeals, because overzealous cops and prosecutors, if for no other reason.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday March 16 2018, @05:31AM
Most of them would receive judicial assistance on a pro-bono basis - many big law firms take such cases.
This doesn't mean that the adversarial party argues pro-bono as well - on the contrary, because the stakes are high. And neither the judges.
And, oh man, if the verdict is over-turned, those pro-bono lawyer will take the skin and some more from the prosecution (in a different case) - rightly so if the individual was wrongly convicted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0, Troll) by jmorris on Friday March 16 2018, @07:28AM (1 child)
Solve the endless appeals on bullcrap grounds by disbarring lawyers who file several of them. Lawfare works because there is no penalty. Discourage the convicts from filing by making them pay a price. Take the sentence and you get a nice quick execution. Delay it a year or more with frivolous appeals and lose and you get the messy exit. Quit once the average wait time is low and the average cost of getting to execution gets reasonable again.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 16 2018, @07:33AM
I wish you be convicted to 10 years in prison just-because without the ability to appeal.
Maybe this way you'll learn that cheap!=fair.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday March 16 2018, @10:17AM
s/expect/except/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford