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posted by cmn32480 on Saturday March 17 2018, @01:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the now-we-know-who-to-blame dept.

Teenagers are more likely to plead guilty to crimes they did not commit because they are less able to make mature decisions, new research shows.

Experts have called for major changes to the criminal justice system after finding innocent younger people are far more likely admit to offences, even when innocent, than adults.

Those who carried out the study say teenagers should not be allowed to make deals where they face a lesser charge in return for pleading guilty. The study suggests young people are more likely to be enticed by these deals, and take what they see as an advantageous offer even when they have done nothing wrong.

Most criminal convictions in the UK and the USA occur as the result of guilty pleas, rather than trial. This means the majority of convictions are the result of decisions made by people accused of crimes rather than jurors.

The research was carried out in the USA, where a system known as "plea bargaining" is utilised, but the academics say their discovery has implications for countries across the world that allow teenagers accused of crimes to receive a sentence or charge reduction by pleading guilty. Specifically, the researchers recommend restricting reductions that may entice innocent teenagers into pleading guilty and making it easier for teenagers to change pleas after they have been entered.

Other research has found adolescents are less able to perceive risk and resist the influence of peers because of developmental immaturity.

https://phys.org/news/2018-03-teenagers-guilty-crimes-didnt-commit.html

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  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Saturday March 17 2018, @08:26PM (9 children)

    A friend of mine is in this position right now. He was charged with shoplifting and is not guilty. (I won't go into details but there is evidence of his innocence.) He can fight it, and face stiff penalties, or take a plea deal with known, and less expensive, penalties. As it's not a class A misdemeanor in this state (considering the dollar amount) there is no public defender available and he can't afford legal fees.

    The Gideon [wikipedia.org] decision applies in virtually all criminal cases, and the state must provide counsel if the defendant cannot afford to hire his own.

    If this is a misdemeanor where there is potential for either jail time or probation (cf. Alabama v. Shelton [wikipedia.org]) SCOTUS has affirmed that counsel *must* be provided. As such, Either this is a "violation" (like a moving violation), in which case it's not a "criminal" action and/or the penalties are just fines and/or community service, you/your friend are woefully uninformed, or your scenario is just bullshit.

    I suppose that whatever state you are in could be flouting Gideon/Alabama v. Shelton, but if that were the case, rafts of lawyers would be happy to take this case up pro-bono, as it's a clear violation of the fifth and sixth amendments via the 14th amendment.

    Gideon has been the law of the land since 1963 and Alabama v. Shelton since 2002.

    N.B.: IANAL

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  • (Score: 2) by black6host on Saturday March 17 2018, @10:51PM (3 children)

    by black6host (3827) on Saturday March 17 2018, @10:51PM (#654257) Journal

    Thank you. As stated earlier there is no threat of jail time or probation.

    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Saturday March 17 2018, @11:09PM (2 children)

      Thank you. As stated earlier there is no threat of jail time or probation.

      My pleasure.

      All the same, I went back and read the post to which I replied and did not see a reference to what specific penalties were at play.

      If I missed that, my apologies. Although it may be instructive for others in a situation similar to your friends' to know what the law is, especially if jail and/or probation are at issue.

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      • (Score: 2) by black6host on Sunday March 18 2018, @03:10PM (1 child)

        by black6host (3827) on Sunday March 18 2018, @03:10PM (#654480) Journal

        In his case, worst case scenario are fines. I believe up to 1200 USD is possible. However, along with that comes the guilty conviction. If he pleads out he'll still have to pay. So there's not a huge downside to fighting it for him. There are other options we can go for, file it and dump it after a year if no further incidents, drop it to a violation, etc. But a plea deal is not one of them :)

        • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday March 19 2018, @12:37AM

          In his case, worst case scenario are fines. I believe up to 1200 USD is possible. However, along with that comes the guilty conviction. If he pleads out he'll still have to pay. So there's not a huge downside to fighting it for him. There are other options we can go for, file it and dump it after a year if no further incidents, drop it to a violation, etc. But a plea deal is not one of them :)

          That's good. I'm not sure where you are, but where I am, this sort of thing (assuming no real previous criminal record) often gets classed as "adjournment contemplating dismissal" which lines up with your "file it and dump it after a year." I'm surprised that the prosecutor hasn't suggested that him/herself.

          It seems odd that the retailer and the prosecutor have been such huge pricks about this. I suspect that there's more to this (not necessarily that he's guilty, but prosecutors, at least around here, have better things to do with their time than pounding on petty theft) than you're saying, or the prosecutor has *way* too much time on his hands.

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  • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday March 18 2018, @04:56AM (4 children)

    by sjames (2882) on Sunday March 18 2018, @04:56AM (#654351) Journal

    In many states, you have to be pretty much homeless to be considered "unable to afford an attorney".

    As far as they are concerned, it's fine if you end up homeless BECAUSE you hired an attorney.

    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Sunday March 18 2018, @05:07AM (3 children)

      And which states might those be?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @07:37AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @07:37AM (#654375)

        Virginia for one.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by NotSanguine on Sunday March 18 2018, @08:21AM

          An individual whose income is US15,175.00 or less (plus US$5,400.00 per additional household member) is eligible for court appointed counsel in Virginia [state.va.us].

          That limiting amount may be increased based on specific expenses that a criminal defendant may have such as medical expenses, child support and certain other expenses.

          This seems a bit harsh, but what's even worse, if a defendant is convicted, they are then charged their attorney's fees on top of any fines, court fees and other fees associated with their conviction/imprisonment/probation, etc.

          That sucks pretty bad. And is probably a big reason why so many folks in VA choose to either plead guilty without a lawyer or waive a lawyer at trial.

          That's pretty unfair, IMHO. But there are other things that make this situation even more unfair:
          1. Prosecutors not only have their own investigators on staff, they have the police to investigate for them as well;
          2. Prosecutor have wide discretion with respect to charges, indictments and whether or not to prosecute;
          3. Prosecutors have significant leeway in the timing of their responses to discovery requests, often holding back exculpatory information as they seek to force a plea bargain.

          Defense attorneys don't have (well, unless you have the money to pay for 1) any of those resources available. Especially in cases where an indigent defendant has a court-appointed attorney.

          This is supposed to be an adversarial system, but prosecutors have the decked stacked in their favor. Amazingly, a prosecutor in New Orleans even started charging public defenders and their investigators for doing their due diligence in defending their clients. [theguardian.com]

          This just points up the general Fuck the poor [soylentnews.org] attitude we have in the US.

          And while prison/conviction isn't an issue in civil cases, they can be just as devastating to a poor person, as they don't even have an opportunity to get a court-appointed lawyer.

          All of this disproportionately disadvantages poorer people and makes them easy marks in both criminal and civil courts.

          We pay for prosecutors and the support systems they have to put folks away, but if an adversarial system isn't fair, it ceases to provide justice -- rather it makes a mockery of it.

          I believe that both prosecutors and court-appointed attorneys should be drawn from the same pool of lawyers, with equal time on both sides for all the lawyers. What's more, investigators in the prosecutors office should also be assigned to the lawyers currently on the defense side as well -- with the prohibition that they can't work both sides of the same case.

          This would level the playing field somewhat and would likely be a good start in having a justice system that actually produces justice.

          But most people won't go for that, because while they give lip service to the idea of a "fair trial" and "justice" they are unwilling to pay for it. Because too many consider those who are poor to be less than human and undeserving of equal treatment. For shame!

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      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday March 18 2018, @12:42PM

        by sjames (2882) on Sunday March 18 2018, @12:42PM (#654442) Journal

        In Georgia, you must have an income below the federal poverty line. Unless you have anything of value you can sell. You must pay a $50 application fee. If you are convicted, you will be charged for the lawyer.

        That when someone earning right at the poverty line can easily spend a year's income in legal fees before even reaching trial.