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posted by janrinok on Sunday March 18 2018, @12:25AM   Printer-friendly
from the it-ain't-what-you-do-its-the-way-that-you-do-it dept.

Microsoft is trying a new brute-force tactic to boost adoption of its Edge browser. In the latest preview version of Windows 10, Microsoft’s Mail app will automatically open web links in Edge, even for users who’ve set a different browser as their default. Doing so, Microsoft says, will ensure “the best, most secure and consistent experience on Windows 10 and across your devices.”

That’s not exactly true. Although Edge has gotten a lot better since it replaced Internet Explorer as the main Windows browser in 2015, and is now available on iOS and Android, it doesn’t yet sync tabs across devices like Chrome and Mozilla Firefox can. Also, the iPad version is still in beta, and the Android version isn’t compatible with tablets.

Besides, ignoring people’s default browser choice only makes the experience less consistent, because users end up with open web pages scattered across multiple browsers.

CNET has the following to say:

In a note to testers published on Microsoft's website Friday, the company seems to acknowledge it's a bit heavy-handed, and an unusual shift. But, the company believes it's worth doing anyway.

"We will begin testing a change where links clicked on within the Windows Mail app will open in Microsoft Edge, which provides the best, most secure and consistent experience on Windows 10 and across your devices," the company said in a note to "Windows Insider" testers. 

The move struck some people as odd, particularly because of Microsoft's colorful history with web browsers. Two decades ago, the company chose to offer its Internet Explorer web browser for free with Windows, effectively beating its rival Netscape. But it also attracted the attention of regulators, kicking off one of the most high-profile antitrust suits in the industry's history.

Industry watchers and users raised concerns about Microsoft repeating similar mistakes with this move, noting that the company has touted diversity of apps by different developers as a selling point.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by aristarchus on Sunday March 18 2018, @08:25AM (23 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday March 18 2018, @08:25AM (#654385) Journal

    It is so sad, what a person will do to get more cocaine. They claim it is not addictive, but when you see someone lower themselves like this, oh, the misery! Get some help, go clean and sober, and never shill for Micro$erf again. Everyone will be better off.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @08:44AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @08:44AM (#654394)

    Weak. Sauce.

  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by cocaine overdose on Sunday March 18 2018, @01:02PM (21 children)

    You're free to keep insulting me, but I am looking forward to seeing the conversational deftness you're famous for. This is not it.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @03:28PM (15 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @03:28PM (#654495)

      Pretty sure the only thing you're looking forward to is another line of coke. PS - Get your typewriter fixed, grandpa.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by cocaine overdose on Sunday March 18 2018, @03:32PM (14 children)

        I don't know what it means to "get your typewriter fixed." I see it a lot, but nothing clicks.
        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday March 18 2018, @03:49PM (13 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday March 18 2018, @03:49PM (#654505) Journal

          He means "using monospace font for conversation rather than code is an autistic, cabbage-smelling piece of low-level sociopathy and people who do it are scum." He's telling you to use a standard font when you comment.

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          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Sunday March 18 2018, @03:58PM (12 children)

            How do I change to a standard font?
            • (Score: 4, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday March 18 2018, @04:47PM (11 children)

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday March 18 2018, @04:47PM (#654529) Journal

              Oh, it's a really involved process. You'll need a bottle of Mountain Dew, a ball-peen hammer, and your computer. You see, standard fonts are rounder and fuller than mono fonts, and the reason for this is that mono fonts are dehydrated. Your keyboard's may also have gotten "stuck" in mono-font mode. So what you'll need to do is, right before you start typing a post, pour the entire bottle of 'Dew over your keyboard, wait about 15 seconds, then hit the keyboard riiiiiiight in the center with the hammer a few times. The switches will get nicely lubricated by the soda, and you'll be able to un-stick them from mono mode easier.

              Let us know how it goes!

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              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
              • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Sunday March 18 2018, @04:54PM (10 children)

                I feel like chastising someone for not doing what you want, and then when they ask you how to conform to your expectations you don't give them the answer, is not a smart thing to do. Are you really peeved that my font somehow turns into a typewriter? If that was the case, why would you not help fix the issue? Is it because you don't want the issue fixed? Are you just looking to be mean?
                • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Monday March 19 2018, @04:00AM (9 children)

                  by RS3 (6367) on Monday March 19 2018, @04:00AM (#654687)

                  It's likely in your browser. What OS and browser do you use to post? Somewhere in the settings you should be able to set fonts.

                  It's possible your fonts aren't installed correctly, or just not enough of them, or they're corrupted.

                  If you cut-and-paste from something like Word or Notepad, the default font might be Courier 10, or mono, or whatever, and it carries into the comment edit box.

                  I'd start with the browser's font settings.

                  • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Monday March 19 2018, @04:21AM (8 children)

                    I'm using OpenBSD 6.2 Patched with Firefox ESR 52. My fonts seem to be all in-order, because I'm only using the few freetypes that came with the install and my graphics card's default -- which after copying and pasting from xterm to this window, returns the regular arial. But, I'll try with Chromium on Windows 10:

                    | This text was pasted as plain in Chromium |

                    • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Monday March 19 2018, @06:00AM (7 children)

                      by RS3 (6367) on Monday March 19 2018, @06:00AM (#654716)

                      Very cool. I'm embarrassed to say I've never tried any of the BSDs. As such I have no idea what fonts are available to you, but you could experiment.

                      For the record, I'm probably more open-minded than most people seem to be these days, and I don't care about your font. In fact, the variety is interesting. But I understand that some people are annoyed by it. I'm somewhat sensitive to some things, like bad sound mixes.

                      I find Alpine Linux quite interesting for many reasons. It comes with midori web browser. Can't say I like it- barely tried it. It would be nice to have fewer, and better, web browsers.

                      • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Monday March 19 2018, @06:27AM (6 children)

                        You are the first civilized face I've seen in what has felt like eons in a world of savagery.

                        Anyway, I've never tried Midori, but hopes aren't high. Most off the shelf browsers are regressed towards the mean, and any open source ones are very lacking in the JS department. If you have the time, I would recommend grabbing a copy of the Firefox source and hacking, and slashing, around the source code to make something personalized. Everything's already there, all you need to do is get rid of everything you don't need (and there's a lot). Chromium source works too.

                        The more people use web browsers, the more we'll inch closer to the perfect "average." It does no good for the individual user, but it sure does do a lot for Mozilla/Google/etc.
                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @10:18AM (5 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @10:18AM (#654784)

                          It's nothing to do with anything on your pc. Got to your Soylentnews page, https://soylentnews.org/~cocaine+overdose/ [soylentnews.org]
                          Click on the 'Comments' tab.
                          Scroll down to 'Comment Post Mode'
                          Change the value from 'Code' to 'Plain Old Text'
                          Save changes.

                          Tell that silly fucker Arik to do the same.

                          • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Monday March 19 2018, @12:36PM (4 children)

                            I've only got HTML Formatted in the dropdown.
                            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @12:43PM (3 children)

                              by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @12:43PM (#654847)

                              Well that's weird. Most people get four options:
                              - Plain Old Text
                              - HTML Formatted
                              - Extrans (html tags to text)
                              - Code

                              The Code option is what makes your comments monospace font. I guess try the HTML option.

                              • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Monday March 19 2018, @12:57PM (2 children)

                                Here goes the HTML option. The same is true of the dropdown on this comment too. It's nothing but "HTML Formatted."
                                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @01:04PM (1 child)

                                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @01:04PM (#654859)

                                  And that comment is not monospace. Don't know how it will appear to other people though, my set-up is unusual. (Mageia linux with a bunch of odd setup choices.)

    • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Sunday March 18 2018, @07:08PM (4 children)

      by captain normal (2205) on Sunday March 18 2018, @07:08PM (#654555)

      Coke rants are more like yelling into the mike and holding the transmit key down all the time. Hardly qualify as "conversion".

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      When life isn't going right, go left.
      • (Score: 1) by cocaine overdose on Sunday March 18 2018, @07:36PM (3 children)

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @03:27AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @03:27AM (#654673)

          So sad, CO doesn't like his attempt at "seriousness" so very mocked.

          Get with it, people are tired of being manipulated and outright controlled by corporations. Hiding behind "that's business" is not a good enough excuse for shitty behavior.