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Tinder's parent company, Match Group, wants to acquire Bumble, which rejected a $450 million offer from Match Group last year. Match Group appears to be forcing the issue with a patent infringement lawsuit:
Match Group, the online dating company that owns services like Tinder and Match.com, wants to buy Bumble, another popular dating app that lets women make the first move.
But Match may be trying to push the deal along in an unconventional way: A new patent infringement lawsuit filed late Friday in U.S. District court in Waco, Texas.
Match Group is suing Bumble, which was founded by one of Tinder's co-founders, for infringing on two of its patents, including a design patent for Tinder's now-famous swipe-to-connect feature, according to the suit.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @04:57PM (21 children)
What sites and apps don't let women make the first move? Women don't make the first move because they're rather lazy and typically have enough men approaching them that they don't have to put up with the fear of rejection.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Thexalon on Sunday March 18 2018, @05:27PM (18 children)
Apparently, with Bumble, only women are allowed to start the conversation with a potential match.
I'm guessing the thinking behind this is that women tend to get driven off of dating sites by terrible first moves by terrible men. As in, in a reasonably large metro area there's, say, 1000 straight guys who are absolutely awful partners but are looking to get laid, so they go through the dating site and indiscriminately message every woman in the area looking for sex. Which is really annoying if you're on the receiving end of that, causing women to think "Why should I put up with this? All I'm getting are thousands of gross messages from guys I want to have nothing to do with." And then they leave.
In short, a few desperate jerks ruining things for everyone else.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by lgsoynews on Sunday March 18 2018, @05:45PM (16 children)
I'm french. In France, we have a quite successful dating site that gives ALL the power to women (that's even their tagline). It works that way: you browse the profiles, and when you see a girl's profile that you like, you send her what is basically a "like" (they call it a "charm"), you CANNOT send her a message. Then, the woman can go and look at your profile and start the conversation. Did I mention that men pay for using the site, while it's free for women?
THIS is the WORST system ever!
- of course, you get the first problem : everything depends on your profile picture! You have not a chance to present anything about you...
- it ENCOURAGES a lot of "like"-spamming. Since men know that most women will never respond, they send "likes" to about every profile that has some interest to them (note that you have to BUY -expensive- additional likes, so the site makes a LOT of money that way)
- it is horribly sexist both toward men and women, it encourages all the wrong stereotypes
- it is horribly discouraging for men as well as humiliating: basically, you are begging for attention! It's already the case on most (all) dating sites, but here they managed to make it worse.
- the company is proud of it, and many articles celebrate that "at last women have the power" WHAAAAT??? It's already the case on all the other dating sites!
For sure, it helps with the problem of abusive messages, but at what cost?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @06:22PM (8 children)
In a game of chess the white pieces open the game. It's just how it goes.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday March 18 2018, @08:00PM (6 children)
You know, every year I am more and more amazed that there are 7.5+ billion of us and exponentially growing. The hetero mating game is a complete bloody mess.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @10:11PM (3 children)
The thing which amazes me is the number of women that whine about the men they meet, but the concept of actually going after better men by chatting them up or outright asking them out is foreign to them.
If you're trying to attract somebody, you're limited to those somebodies that float by and notice. If you actually shoulder some of the responsibility, then you'll still have to meet them, but you won't have to worry about whether or not they've noticed.
Men get screwed in the bad way over this, because we usually have to make the first move, so if making the first move isn't working, there's not really much else we can do. Whereas if a woman isn't attracting the kind of men that she wants, she has a lot more room to work with, not just fixing her strategy for meeting and attracting men, but to actually take some initiative by asking.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 19 2018, @02:08AM (2 children)
Yeah again: HOW are there 7.5 billion and change of us? @_@ This is insanity.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @03:07AM
Alcohol.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday March 19 2018, @09:46PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday March 19 2018, @11:42AM (1 child)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 19 2018, @07:19PM
Yeah, which makes it even more baffling. AC below says "alcohol," but I have a bad feeling it's really more like "a lot of rape in third-world countries."
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Monday March 19 2018, @08:17AM
Last I checked, chess pieces were not sentient beings.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @08:14PM (5 children)
"it is horribly discouraging for men as well as humiliating: basically, you are begging for attention! "
And how this is different than traditional dating?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @08:54PM
There is difference between begging for a DATE, and begging ajust to have the right to CHAT...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 18 2018, @10:05PM (3 children)
The difference is that in regular dating the woman usually doesn't have a dozen or more men queued up. If she says no to one, she doesn't really know when the next one will come around.
I've found getting first dates with women to be trivial, getting second dates to be borderline impossible due to how impossibly picky the women are here. Men, aren't anywhere near as big a problem. I could easily have a new boyfriend by the end of next month without having to lower my standards too much. But, convincing a woman that 90% perfect isn't really settling has proven to be borderline impossible.
It amazes me that we're not going extinct because all the women refuse to go out with the other 85% of the men that the women aren't targeting until the hit the wall and panic. Usually late enough that they're no longer capable of reproduction.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by https on Monday March 19 2018, @03:36AM (2 children)
Women aren't impossibly picky, they just know an asshole when they see one.
Offended and laughing about it.
(Score: 4, Touché) by deimtee on Monday March 19 2018, @08:34AM
Nah, they don't know from seeing. It apparently takes them one date to work it out.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 3, Informative) by lgsoynews on Monday March 19 2018, @09:55AM
I disagree.
There have been studies that show that on dating sites, women see 80% of men as under average (ie they have impossibly high expectations). Which is obviously a wrong perception, because so many men use those sites that it's certainly not only the Jerks/Desperate (because they are toxic) ones.
I know personally a LOT of people who use dating sites, men & women, of all ages. The distribution of men is clearly extremely wide and includes many good looking (far better than me) and many with good (or tolerable) personalities. I've met many toxic/jerks and awful abusers (some stories are really BAD), but the majority is just your random sample of guys.
BUT they ALL (except the maybe 10% REALLY good looking) complain that using dating sites is hard. That's not to say it doesn't work because it does as I've seen. Unfortunately, expectations (especially for women) are TOO HIGH and this creates a lot of problems.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @08:21AM
In Germany too, there are these sites like parship.de or lovescout24.de, and both are horrible. The first one wants something like €70/mo to send messages, which is ridicules. The 2nd one ropes you in, and then has bullshit like "pay €10/mo extra, so women that don't pay can send you message too". It's a total scam. And of course almost all women there are smokers or are "washouts" too, but I guess that come with territory. After 30, all the good ones are gone, right? Do I sound bitter yet?
The most ridicules thing is these same women will turn around and say "no good men out there" when they would not even want to talk to you to find out in the first place.
I believe that women are even worse at dating than men are. Especially when it comes to online dating where you have to select from a large cesspool. Women are in better position to do that, but sadly, they don't seem to try. I even had to tell someone not to talk to 1 dude at a time, but to filter as many as she can as otherwise she could be stuck at that forever.
Fortunately I found someone, so I'm not as bitter as the above alludes to. But it was not where I expected. Maybe that comes with the territory too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @10:51AM
How is that working out for them? I mean with the number of "where have all the good men gone?" articles lately by women complaining about men not taking the initiative anymore, telling men to "man up" and ask them out, because the alternative - to start asking men out themselves - is too horrible to even consider...
(Score: 2) by ese002 on Monday March 19 2018, @01:15AM (1 child)
Indeed. On Bumble, the first message is almost always "hey", or of the woman is feeling ambitious: "hi there". Then the burden of actually starting a conversation is punted to the man. If the woman does not send their token message, the match expires in 24 hours which it what usually happens. Bumble also sorts the stack by popularity. So, if you swiping you see a lot of hotties but, unless you are hot yourself, none of them are going to swipe right on you.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Monday March 19 2018, @05:57PM
Interesting... makes perfect sense. I just signed up for it a few days ago (mainly because of this story) and discovered that the great majority of the women being presented to me were often *ridiculously* attractive. I bet I use it differently than most, as I never swipe right without checking the short profile (300 characters) for anything that indicates a deal breaker.
I don't see much activity (not surprising; I am not what most would call attractive); occasionally I will see an indication that there was a match, but so far no messages. Personally I have a hard time simply interacting with someone who I don't know and have no idea if they would want my attention. Even a "hi" from someone is enough for me, however.
The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.