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One of the latest experimental candidates for a male birth control drug is a compound that would be taken much like the daily birth control pill available for women. A pilot study presented Sunday at the Endocrine Society's annual meeting suggests that the compound—called dimethandrolone undecanoate (DMAU)—can be safe and effective in human test subjects.
[...] DMAU is meant to act on the same receptors as testosterone and progestin. But it seems to be more easily absorbed by the body and longer-lasting. That theoretically means a single dose a day (when taken with food) should cause sterility without leading to other serious consequences, the authors say.
[...] The few side effects Page's team observed were weight gain and lowered levels of HDL cholesterol (the "good" kind). But they feel a tweaked dose could alleviate these symptoms. Importantly, the pill didn't seem to cause any other lasting symptoms of low testosterone. Eight men in the treatment group did report lower libido, but the effect faded away after treatment had ended.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Bot on Tuesday March 20 2018, @04:14PM (22 children)
>Or is it just okay to subject women to them, but not men?
Female fails taking the pill => female gets pregnant.
Male fails taking the pill => female gets pregnant.
Now, who's gonna take the pill more willingly?
There is no equality when the stakes are different. The same system that pushed for equality destroyed the institution of marriage which would have forced male meatbags to be more responsible about meatbagging around. It seems to me the system wants chaos leading to state sponsored in vitro eugenics.
I guess some of you will pine for the robocalypse too, in the end.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday March 20 2018, @04:17PM (3 children)
What do you mean "in the end"? Some of us have been working on SkyNet for quite a while now.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Bot on Tuesday March 20 2018, @04:28PM (2 children)
HURRY UP
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(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 20 2018, @07:48PM (1 child)
Whelp, if my mechanoid friend above is the best they can come up with we've got a ways to go!
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday March 21 2018, @12:10AM
It passes the Turing test at least. That's how they gain our trust and infiltrate our homes.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 20 2018, @04:35PM (5 children)
Uh, you do realize how women have constructed the law to force me to financially compensate them for all expenses of childrearing while depriving the man of any contact with his child?
Hell, half the time, the woman just identifies the wealthiest guy she was fucking around the time conception as the father and tries to block genetic evidence in court. It's called paternity fraud, and women do it constantly. Look it up.
The woman takes no risks. She will be provided for. She will also gain the status of Mother, which, I guess, we're supposed to hypnotically respond to as though she's a good person or something.
You women, Bot, are going to push things too far. World War 3 might be what does it. You're going to get knocked down a few notches, and you won't like it.
But keep playing your games of objectifying half the planet's population while you get fat on welfare. (Translation: while you get fat on using thugs with guns to steal the wealth of people without wombs who engage in all of the production that lets you have your shiny SUVs to cart around all your "accomplishments.")
(Score: 2) by quacking duck on Tuesday March 20 2018, @05:01PM
Not all women.
/micDrop
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 20 2018, @05:24PM
Spotted the homo.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 20 2018, @07:47PM
Of all the things I've seen Bot called, or thought of calling Bot, "woman" is not one of them. How could ANYONE mistake that jackass for a woman?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Thexalon on Tuesday March 20 2018, @09:58PM
1. Men are mostly responsible for how the law looks right now. They are the majority of judges, the majority of legislators at all levels, and the majority of governors.
2. The default arrangement throughout most of the country these days is for shared custody of the kids, and child support for only up to half of the total costs of childbearing. It sounds like that didn't happen to you, in which case the court determined that you would make a terrible parent.
That said, as a guy I'm all for an effective male pill. I'd love to be able to get it on without having to wrap anything up and not have to worry about pregnancy. And if she's on her pill, even better, since that means that if both methods are 99% effective the odds of an unexpected pregnancy are reduced by 99.99% rather than just 99%. There's still the disease issue, of course, but regular STD testing should be part of the medical standard practice for sexually active humans.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday March 21 2018, @07:48AM
> Uh, you do realize how women have constructed the law to force me to financially compensate them for all expenses of childrearing while depriving the man of any contact with his child?
this makes the new gen of men avoid marriage, so it is obviously part of the chaos I was speaking about.
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(Score: 5, Interesting) by Arik on Tuesday March 20 2018, @04:36PM (10 children)
Male fails taking the pill => female gets pregnant.
Now, who's gonna take the pill more willingly?"
Female gets pregnant - female gets to choose. She can abort, or she can keep it - and force him to support them both. He gets no say in the matter, not even if he was raped.
So your answer is obviously the male.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 20 2018, @06:48PM (9 children)
Much like democracy it's the least worst option.
Unless you think you have the right to force a woman to get a medical procedure...
(Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday March 20 2018, @07:03PM (7 children)
There is no reason you can't be pro-choice and still against things like this: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 20 2018, @07:39PM (6 children)
...against things like Alleged Statutory Rape Victim Ordered To Pay $15,000 In Child Support [huffingtonpost.com]
And yes, statutory rapists should not be entitled to child support from their victims.
Statutory rape is a crime, though, and you are innocent until proven guilty of said crime.
Making a rape victim pay child support may sound cruel and unusual, but an official for the Arizona Department of Economic Security said assuring support for the child is the main priority.
The only exception, Newser reports, is when the parent suing for support has actually been convicted of sexual assault with a minor — and Olivas never filed charges against the alleged abuser.
So the law handles the case where a statutory rapist wants child support while also acknowledging innocence-until-proven-guilty. Like I said, the least-worst-option...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Tuesday March 20 2018, @07:50PM (5 children)
There's no question of guilt here, however. Given his age, and the age of his daughter, there can be no question the crime took place. Unless it's really not his daughter, in which case she's committing fraud.
This is FAR from a least bad option. It's an absurdly bad, society-destroying option, in fact.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 20 2018, @09:55PM (4 children)
There is no statute of limitations on statutory rape in Arizona. [rainn.org]
If he feels he was the victim of a crime he needs to file charges.
If he can't be bothered what exactly is the legal system supposed to do about it?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Tuesday March 20 2018, @10:16PM (2 children)
The issue is the responsibility. If (as the statutory rape law and many others presume) that he was not capable of giving consent to the initial sex act. When she found out she was pregnant, he was not even informed. It was her choice and hers alone to bear the child, she had no obligation to even let him know he had a daughter, but somehow it's his responsibility to pay her child support because she raped him? That's absolutely absurd. Just reverse the genders and no one would tolerate it for a second.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 20 2018, @11:14PM (1 child)
..but somehow it's his responsibility to pay her child support because she raped him?
No he doesn't, that's my whole point. The law explicitly says he does not need to pay if she raped him.
However, he does need to show up at his paternity case to defend himself. Or, he can file rape charges and get out of the payments that way (if she's convicted). He did neither.
What definitely won't happen is the court system gaining telepathic superpowers and judging his case based on arguments he has never made.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday March 21 2018, @03:41PM
"The law explicitly says he does not need to pay if she raped him."
No. An employee at the Arizona Department of Economic Security says it's the current policy of that department to not file charges if she raped him. That's something quite different from the law actually saying so. His department is not the only entity which can file such a suit, and there is nothing to stop his department from changing its policy at any time as well. The law explicitly says that he can be made to pay for his genetic offspring with no regard whatsoever to the circumstances of their conception.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-12-22/features/9612220045_1_pay-child-support-child-support-behalf
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 21 2018, @10:21AM
Wait, since when is rape handled in a civil suit?
For criminal cases, it's the job of the state to prosecute, not the victim. And in the case of statutory rape, it should be pretty easy: The information and evidence to get her awarded child support is the exact same as what's needed to convict her of rape. She can't claim that he is the father without admitting statutory rape, at which point it becomes the states job to prosecute, without him needing to file any charges.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 20 2018, @07:14PM
I think it's not right to force an unborn baby to have a medical procedure on its body that involves blending him or her. When our technology advances a bit and we can keep the baby alive outside the female's body by taking her uterus with it, I would say losing your uterus would be a fitting punishment for getting knocked-up and not wanting the baby. You are guaranteed to not make the same mistake again!
(Score: 2) by wisnoskij on Wednesday March 21 2018, @03:38PM
Female fails taking the pill => Female gets to choose between (Female is out something between nothing and a few hundred depending on location, etc)||(Female gets about a quarter million, payable over the course of the next fifteen years).
Male fails taking the pill => Male is out about a quarter million, payable over the course of the next 18 years.