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posted by martyb on Wednesday March 21 2018, @01:03AM   Printer-friendly
from the And-nothing-of-value-was-lost dept.

#DeleteFacebook trends in response to Cambridge Analytica

We all moved on from MySpace. We can move on from Facebook too." This was a typical message found on Twitter in the wake of accusations over Cambridge Analytica using personal data from 50 million Facebook users to influence the US presidential election in 2016. After reports of Cambridge Analytica using Facebook's user information came to light, people began to urge others to either #DeleteFacebook or #BoycottFacebook in response.

[...] A spokeswoman for Privacy International warned that privacy concerns extend beyond Facebook as "your data is being exploited all the time". A person on the technology subsection of Reddit agreed, saying removing Facebook "doesn't solve the long term problem [because] consent to data use is very weakly protected online right now". And one Twitter user seeking regulation of Facebook said having the ability to delete an account is "a privilege".

This is a campaign we can all get behind, regardless of your position on election interference and influences.

Previously: The Cambridge Analytica Files


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by NotSanguine on Wednesday March 21 2018, @01:18AM (20 children)

    This could help give Diaspora [diasporafoundation.org] another chance.

    It's actually a pretty decent environment that doesn't spy on you and has no advertisements. It can even link (if you want) to the centralized spying apparatus [facebook.com].

    The biggest bar to adoption of Diaspora [wikipedia.org] is the painful installation [diasporafoundation.org] of the Diaspora platform [wikipedia.org].

    Even Docker [github.com] containers and VMs [google.com] are a pain in the ass to install.

    What's worse, the devs don't even seem to care [diasporafoundation.org].

    As a side project, I've been looking at trying to tie the pieces together but that's going to take a while. Given how long Diaspora has been around, you'd think this would be a solved problem by now. Sigh.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday March 21 2018, @01:34AM (3 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday March 21 2018, @01:34AM (#655786) Homepage Journal

    The main problem is you're just not going to get Grandma on Diaspora while the pictures of her grandbabies are all on FaceBook.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Wednesday March 21 2018, @03:34AM

      If the adult children have the ability to run an installer with sane defaults and decent, understandable (for non-devs/admins) docs, that could change.

      Especially with Grandma, as she doesn't care about much of that online crap *except* photos of the grandbabies.

      She certainly wouldn't care (or even notice) if their child set the bookmark to go to a diaspora pod rather than facebook.

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      No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 21 2018, @03:34AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 21 2018, @03:34AM (#655862)

      Well get your damned siblings to switch, make it sound diiiire! Men, who am I kidding. After explaining things to a sibling who believes and agrees they still won't switch.

      Fucking convenience is a bitch!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 21 2018, @03:41AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 21 2018, @03:41AM (#655870)

        Goot dam ootokurrect
        Meh not men!

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday March 21 2018, @01:48AM (13 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 21 2018, @01:48AM (#655793) Journal

    Yeah, I took a quick look at the installation. Crap - there IS a lot of stuff. And, they expect it all to be done in proper sequence, with the proper credentials. It's like setting up a full-fledged server.

    Oh, wait. It IS a server!

    Thinking. Maybe. Weekend project, maybe? But why? I don't even make use of existing social media. But, then, I've often done challenging shit just for the lulz. I might do this . . .

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Thexalon on Wednesday March 21 2018, @02:07AM (2 children)

      by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday March 21 2018, @02:07AM (#655809)

      It's a server if you choose to set up your own "pod". If you join somebody else's "pod", it's a website.

      That said, it sounds like some packaging work would be in order to make "pod" setup much easier for the average sysadmin.

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    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Wednesday March 21 2018, @03:36AM (7 children)

      If you have Docker, it's a *little* simpler, but not much.

      I started playing with the Bitnami VM, but it's not a clean install on many hypervisors. Even then, there's some significant configuration to do.

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      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday March 21 2018, @10:51AM (6 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday March 21 2018, @10:51AM (#656030) Homepage Journal

        Containers are for pansies. Real admins not only juggle dependencies for multiple projects, they do it on slackware. Without using a package manager.

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        • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Wednesday March 21 2018, @04:55PM (2 children)

          Now who's the pansy? Real Admins use bare metal! I mean they etch their own circuits onto the bare metal. None of this factory fab stuff. And input their code directly in binary via positive and negative 5v DC currents.. None of this machine language crap. And have levers to push and pop the registers.

          Slackware! Bah! Geez! Kids today! I tell ya! Next thing is you'll be whining for a monitor -- no one needs that when you have an oscilloscope.

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          • (Score: 3, Funny) by terryk30 on Wednesday March 21 2018, @09:54PM (1 child)

            by terryk30 (1753) on Wednesday March 21 2018, @09:54PM (#656358)

            Oscilloscope?!- pshaw! You want a real feel for what's going on, you send it out full-voltage RS-232 with alligator clips on your tongue.

        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Wednesday March 21 2018, @04:58PM (1 child)

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Wednesday March 21 2018, @04:58PM (#656196) Journal

          I thought real admins run Linux From Scratch.

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          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday March 21 2018, @09:27PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday March 21 2018, @09:27PM (#656354) Journal

            In theory yes. In practice, none of them have managed to compile all the damn dependencies manually yet...on the upside, the first Real Admin Running Gentoo (TM) has just managed to get his box to boot from the HDD instead of the LiveCD! Of course now half of world needs updated, but eh, that's life.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 21 2018, @06:53PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 21 2018, @06:53PM (#656285)

          Or a GUI.

    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Wednesday March 21 2018, @05:20AM

      What Thexalon said.

      cf. https://diasporafoundation.org/ [diasporafoundation.org]

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by TheRaven on Wednesday March 21 2018, @10:24AM

      by TheRaven (270) on Wednesday March 21 2018, @10:24AM (#656011) Journal
      I complain about owncloud / nextcloud a lot, but their installation procedure was: 'pkg ins nextcloud' and then copy and paste some things from the manual into my nginx config. It took about 10 minutes and could be completely automated if you're happy with the default install. That was on FreeBSD, but it's similar on most *NIX platforms.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 21 2018, @06:05PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 21 2018, @06:05PM (#656252)

    it's a PITA b/c it's ROR. not wasting my time on that bullshit. docker is lame ass bullshit too.

    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday March 22 2018, @02:20AM

      it's a PITA b/c it's ROR. not wasting my time on that bullshit. docker is lame ass bullshit too.

      Yep. Ruby on Rails is a pain in the ass.

      Docker is really only optimal for certain solutions. I don't use it very much myself.

      I only brought it up because I was looking at various ways to package up Diaspora.

      I support your decision not to use Ruby or Docker.

      I am a little confused as to why you're so butthurt about it. Did a bunch of Ruby coders and Docker admins gang rape your sister or something?

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      No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr