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posted by mrpg on Sunday March 25 2018, @01:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the I-didnt-see-that-coming dept.

YouTube expands firearms restrictions, more gun videos to be banned

"Some gun-related channels are already feeling the heat."

YouTube is placing more restrictions on weapons-related videos, focusing on guns with new, forthcoming policy changes. According to a Bloomberg report, YouTube intends to ban videos that "promote or link to websites selling firearms and accessories," including bump stocks, beginning this April. The new policy will also prohibit instructional videos that detail how to build firearms.

These restrictions come over a month after the school shooting in Parkland, Florida and just a few days before the March for Our Lives rally organized by the student survivors of the Parkland shooting. YouTube took similar action after the Las Vegas shooting last year by banning gun-modification tutorials.

"We routinely make updates and adjustments to our enforcement guidelines across all of our policies," a YouTube representative said in a statement to Bloomberg. "While we've long prohibited the sale of firearms, we recently notified creators of updates we will be making around content promoting the sale or manufacture of firearms and their accessories."

[...] While some may see YouTube's new firearms policy as ambiguously worded, it's the forthcoming implementation that will get the most reaction from firearms channels. Plenty of YouTubers have seen their content demonetized or removed due to the way YouTube's algorithm and moderators filter out potentially offensive content and content that goes against Community Guidelines. It's possible that gun-related videos that do not explicitly violate the new rules will get caught up in the first rounds of YouTube's upcoming purge.

[...] With the upcoming policy, YouTube will join the bevy of other companies, including Dick's Sporting Goods and Walmart, that have instituted new restrictions on the promotion or sales of firearms in the wake of the Parkland shooting.

Gun videos migrate to porn sites as YouTube cracks down

THERE is a bunch of unusual videos turning up on porn streaming sites as America's gun advocates cry foul.

YOUTUBE is going to start banning videos related to the sale or manufacture of guns next month, so as a way to make up for it, firearm aficionados are jumping ship to Pornhub — where they can post pretty much any clip they'd like.

Gun videos migrate to porn sites as YouTube cracks down


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by idiot_king on Sunday March 25 2018, @03:09PM (28 children)

    by idiot_king (6587) on Sunday March 25 2018, @03:09PM (#657920)

    Look, nobody likes the fact that the US gov't is the bitch of the NRA. Companies are making a stand against gun violence, of which the US is extremely overrepresented when compared to Europe, Australia, and East Asia (essentially all of whom have outright banned firearms). This is an actual, counterculture revolution happening before our very eyes, and the capitalist system seems to be starting to get it. The March yesterday all over the US was proof that the PEOPLE are tired of guns, and gun violence. I wholeheartedly support the motion of the capitalist system to start realizing that it's NOT the one in control. Hopefully the next administration can make real headway in a verifiably correct interpretation of the poorly-constructed Second Amendment. Chomsky pointed out the ever-incorrect understanding of it, and he's a damn linguist. This is just the first step, and it makes me proud that at least the people are starting to push back against the tyranny of the NRA letting whoever has money have access to killing machines.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @03:15PM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @03:15PM (#657923)

    Gun-control has been a great success in Chicago [heyjackass.com] that it's hard to see how anybody could challenge your sense of moral superiority.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by idiot_king on Sunday March 25 2018, @03:22PM (17 children)

      by idiot_king (6587) on Sunday March 25 2018, @03:22PM (#657929)

      That's because of inequality. Violence directly correlates with inequality, and this is VERY well known. Chicago has banned guns but it borders both Wisconsin and Indiana which have more lax gun laws meaning that a black market for them is created in Chicago.
      Get rid of guns nationwide and you will see a difference, which is why I mentioned the countries I mentioned. Don't even bring up Mexico, Brazil, etc because those countries have EXTREME inequality which directly leads to violence as stated just previously.
      Removal of guns and removal of inequality would make a near-crimeless society, which is the EXACT byproduct of the whole Marxist project. The remainder of the crime would be conscious bad-actors either trying to undermine the communist system (i.e., capitalist subversive actions like we have constantly seen in Central/South America and the Mideast) or legitimate psychopaths hiding in the fat-tails of the societal distribution of human traits.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @04:16PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @04:16PM (#657958)

        Violence directly correlates with inequality, and this is VERY well known.

        Correct. The successful anti-socials in the poorer community are then the driver of further anti-social behaviour and this is how you get no-go zones.

        Removal of guns and removal of inequality would make a near-crimeless society, which is the EXACT byproduct of the whole Marxist project.

        Incorrect. You cannot eliminate inequalities without tyranny, they are inherent properties of existence. It's also not NRA members committing mass shootings but they would be your best line of defence against a tyrannical Marxist government doing what Marxist governments do. [theepochtimes.com]

        Physician heal thyself - your proposed cure is worse than the disease.

        • (Score: 4, Informative) by fritsd on Sunday March 25 2018, @05:39PM (5 children)

          by fritsd (4586) on Sunday March 25 2018, @05:39PM (#657989) Journal

          Incorrect. You cannot eliminate inequalities without tyranny, they are inherent properties of existence.

          WTF?! Are you claiming that countries like the European countries with low GINI scores [wikipedia.org], are tyrannical? I don't think so. There are great differences between countries w.r.t. inequality.

          So why do many countries manage a GINI of around 25%, as opposed to the USA's 47% and yet I haven't read about public executions of The Rich in Slovenia, Belgium, Finland, Iceland??

          Unless you used the word "eliminate" as an absolute. But that's just sophistry: sure you can't *eliminate* inequalities, but you can ameliorate them by adapting your tax law. Progressive taxation helps to greatly reduce the inequalities over the span of a few generations.
          Let the strongest shoulders bear the heaviest loads. And that doesn't result in tyranny.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @06:12PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @06:12PM (#657999)

            WTF?! Are you claiming that countries like the European countries with low GINI scores [wikipedia.org], are tyrannical? I don't think so. There are great differences between countries w.r.t. inequality.

            No, I'm claiming that eliminating inequalities in pursuit of a utopian ideal is tyrannical; a claim I did not limit to wealth inequality.

            sure you can't *eliminate* inequalities, but you can ameliorate them by adapting your tax law. Progressive taxation helps to greatly reduce the inequalities over the span of a few generations.

            I agree with the premise entirely but you have to accept the economic reality that some invest while others squander.

            Let the strongest shoulders bear the heaviest loads. And that doesn't result in tyranny.

            It did for the plantation slaves! Historically people begin objecting to paying income taxes at rates around 45%, slowing growth and the prospect of inflation will always bring this to the fore.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @06:24PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @06:24PM (#658007)

              We need a phrase like Godwin for when a conservative tries to play the oppression card.

              Higher taxes == slavery? Lawl

              • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @06:58PM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @06:58PM (#658016)

                We need a phrase like Godwin for when a conservative tries to play the oppression card.

                Higher taxes == slavery? Lawl

                I am not a conservative. I humbly suggest you try justifying your theory using the influential, although discredited Marxist value of labor. All you need to do is replace "boss" and "profit" with "state" and "tax".

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @08:55PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @08:55PM (#658059)

                  Sounds like you're sitting on a tall horse. I would not equate a capitalist organization with slavery either unless an employee was not free to quit.

                  I arrogantly call you ridiculous.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @09:43PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @09:43PM (#658085)

                    My horse is being self-employed, owning the means of production and living the "Marxist dream" :P Someone else brought Marx into the discussion - there should probably be an equivalent of Godwins law for whenever anybody does that. The fallacy of argumentum-ad-marxism. Since you recognise that voluntary employment is not exploitative you would, presumably, also recognise that a majority of your income being taken via taxation under the threat of government force is exploitative? If you already recognise that Marxism is ridiculous then the point I was making will seem equally ridiculous.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mhajicek on Sunday March 25 2018, @04:36PM (3 children)

        by mhajicek (51) on Sunday March 25 2018, @04:36PM (#657969)

        Get rid of guns and you'll see an epidemic of rape and machete massacres. Working on reducing inequality would help, provided it can be done without communism.

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        The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
        • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @06:12PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @06:12PM (#658000)

          Yessiree! The only thing keeping me back from going on a machete rape massacree is the fear that some communists might have guns.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @08:56AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @08:56AM (#658299)

            Not to mention, raping machetes really, really hurts, and the machete does not respect you in the morning. All in all, kind of a Red Pillar encounter. No spawn, no tax break.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @07:29PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @07:29PM (#658603)

            Not only was this comment not funny, but you didn't even get what the parent was saying. Never did they say that communists had any guns. Further, there are two massive borders to the US. GP claiming that the only reason Chicago has guns is because of the bordering areas is valid but they completely forget that guns will still leak in like a flood from Mexico and Canada. After all, banning drugs did nothing to actually get rid of any drugs, no more than prohibition got rid of alcohol. People that wanted to, did it anyway.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Sunday March 25 2018, @05:40PM (4 children)

        by hemocyanin (186) on Sunday March 25 2018, @05:40PM (#657991) Journal

        If you work, you have guns in the hands of private individuals to thank for the 8 hr day, lack of child labor laws, end of unpaid work, worker safety rules -- virtually everything you take for granted today, was being violently suppressed by police, state militias, and national guard troops just 100 years ago.

        In the Ludlow Massacre, National Guard troops whose salaries were being paid by a Rockefeller, machine gunned a tent camp of strikers, went through dousing the tents with kerosene, lit it on fire -- the workers fought back as best they could to defend themselves against the atrocities with firearms. The national guard's actions caused 13 kids to burn to death in a medical tent -- the battle went on for about 10 days. One outcome of this war with the state of Colorado and the oligarchs who owned it, was the passage of laws at the Federal level eliminating child labor and setting an 8 hr day as standard. But do you really think the Federal Congress was acting out of the goodness of its heart (these were long standing grievences ignored for many decades)? No, Congress acted out of the real fear of a general insurrection.

        The Ludlow Massacre was not the only battle fought and not the only atrocity committed by state and private police/military organizations. Without the ability of workers to use firearms to fight battles against oligarchs and the government they owned, you too would be a slave today, and we all owe a debt of thanks to the blood they shed to give us the rights we have.

        As we enter a new gilded age, do you really think the Rockefellers of our time are not aware of how an armed populace might limit the 0.1%'s ability to take everything? In this context, it is completely logical for moneyed interests to convince the population to self-neuter itself and ensure that only the police and national guard have access to weapons -- these groups have forever been the tools of oligarchy and oppression so it is like the 0.1% is giving itself machine guns and tanks while making sure you have nothing but bows and sling shots.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by maxwell demon on Sunday March 25 2018, @08:04PM (3 children)

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday March 25 2018, @08:04PM (#658040) Journal

          If you work, you have guns in the hands of private individuals to thank for the 8 hr day, lack of child labor laws, end of unpaid work, worker safety rules -- virtually everything you take for granted today, was being violently suppressed by police, state militias, and national guard troops just 100 years ago.

          And yet in other countries people got all that without guns in their hands.

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          The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Sunday March 25 2018, @08:29PM (2 children)

            by hemocyanin (186) on Sunday March 25 2018, @08:29PM (#658052) Journal

            You think the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution didn't put the fear of the people into other governments? I know it is currently popular to think of Europe as some utopian paradise throughout all ages, but the same story plays out time and again -- concentrated wealth and power leads to repression and horrific conditions for regular people up to the point those people begin to revolt. If those in power are too late in realizing they've overplayed their hand, they lose their heads, so smart Power makes concessions before the risk rises too high. One way to push back the point at which Power must make concessions, is to ensure the populace has only a limited ability to revolt and that tactic is perfectly expressed as gun control.

            • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @06:53AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @06:53AM (#658262)

              And yet in other countries people got all that without guns in their hands.

              • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Monday March 26 2018, @07:38PM

                by hemocyanin (186) on Monday March 26 2018, @07:38PM (#658609) Journal

                So in your view, oligarchs in the UK would look at the Russian Revolution, and think -- absolutely nothing. They would have no fear, wouldn't worry, wouldn't try to propagandize their own people, wouldn't make concessions to show they aren't bad guys. They'd just look over their and go "huh -- whatever."

                Don't be a moron.

      • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Monday March 26 2018, @02:50PM

        by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Monday March 26 2018, @02:50PM (#658453) Journal

        I will precisely bring up Mexico, Brazil, etc. They got rid of their guns. It did not get rid of their inequality, rather, doing so ossified it. That wasn't due to lack of firearms or getting them on the black market.

        If you make drinking kool-aid mandatory by the law, then anyone who doesn't drink the kool-aid is by definition a criminal. Share everything and those who don't share are just selfish. Let a thousand flowers bloom and any that fail to grow are the fault of the grower. All are ways of mice who have tried to bell the cat.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by mhajicek on Sunday March 25 2018, @04:45PM

    by mhajicek (51) on Sunday March 25 2018, @04:45PM (#657972)

    So they're tired of the current long and steep downward trend in violence and want to turn it back to the elevated levels of a few decades ago? Anyone who believes we're in the midst of a gun violence epidemic has been thoroughly brainwashed and either hasn't seen or won't believe the actual numbers.

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    The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
  • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Sunday March 25 2018, @05:20PM

    by hemocyanin (186) on Sunday March 25 2018, @05:20PM (#657983) Journal

    More people (infants) accidentally strangle themselves in bed in each year, than people of all age groups are killed by all rifles of any type, not just AR15s:

    2012 numbers, see page 25: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf [cdc.gov]

    accidental suffocation and strangulation in bed: 479

    Anyway, if you really want to "do something" or "think of the children" -- you're wasting your time hating on the Bill of Rights.

  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Sunday March 25 2018, @05:28PM

    by jmorris (4844) on Sunday March 25 2018, @05:28PM (#657985)

    Don't parrot media and twitter talking points; ask better questions and get better answers:

    Try "Why is the US Govt the NRA's bitch?"

    Because they represent millions of paying members who are almost all single issue voters if 2nd Amendment issues are in the news and millions and millions more who agree but aren't current members. (Some just don't join or stay because their fundraising is hyper aggressive, some just aren't 'joiners', some are members of GOA and more "hardcore" groups, etc.) It isn't the money the NRA contributes that gives them power, NRA and NRA-ILA are way down the list of political contributors by dollar amount. Don't believe me, go lookup NRA, NRA-ILA and then NEA + NFT for example. The NRA is feared for their power to issue scorecards / endorse. In most places in Red America being labeled "Anti-2nd Amendment" by the NRA will cost you an election faster than a charge of "racism" by the SPLC or being caught fucking your secretary... ok in the current "bangmetoo" era the secretary banging might be more toxic.

  • (Score: 2) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Sunday March 25 2018, @10:20PM (5 children)

    by fido_dogstoyevsky (131) <{axehandle} {at} {gmail.com}> on Sunday March 25 2018, @10:20PM (#658096)

    ...Europe, Australia, and East Asia (essentially all of whom have outright banned firearms)...

    Correction: we still have lots of guns in Oz. We consider them guns, not firearms.

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    It's NOT a conspiracy... it's a plot.
    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @11:51PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @11:51PM (#658135)

      Just to add to your correction, here in the UK we've fairly strict gun laws, handguns are banned, automatic weapons are banned, but there is no outright ban on firearms, though there are creeping idiocies like, for example, Scotland, where you now need a licence to own an air weapon, though they're being remarkably quiet on how many of the estimated 500,000 air weapons that they estimated were in legal ownership up until they changed the law have been registered/destroyed (last figures I can find 17,000 licences applied for, 21,000 weapons destroyed).

      Anyhoo, as you probably guessed, all this legislation and licensing hasn't stopped the criminal elements from getting their hands on real firearms (e.g. Google 'midlands gun gangs' for a recent example), and I have to also add that it's currently not politically correct to point out that along with the influx of Eastern European economic migrants we also got an influx of Eastern European automatic weaponry..and hand pistols..and grenades (allegedly), and just wait till the Jihadists sneak back...

      Meanwhile, we have this. [telegraph.co.uk]

      Funny old world, isn't it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @11:55PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25 2018, @11:55PM (#658139)

        estimated 500,000 air weapons that they estimated

        Yechh, I missed that, I either need sleep, booze or coffee or all three of them (coffee makes me sleep, go figure..)

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Reziac on Monday March 26 2018, @07:09AM (2 children)

        by Reziac (2489) on Monday March 26 2018, @07:09AM (#658267) Homepage

        "here in the UK we've fairly strict gun laws, handguns are banned"

        With these interesting results:
        https://crimeresearch.org/2013/12/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/ [crimeresearch.org]

        Hmmm.

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        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @03:54PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @03:54PM (#658488)

          Indeed, they tend to keep very quiet about statistics like these...that is, until they want to justify the arming of the Police..

          • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday March 27 2018, @03:21AM

            by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday March 27 2018, @03:21AM (#658784) Homepage

            And then it's suddenly all deadly butter knives everywhere!!

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