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posted by mrpg on Sunday March 25 2018, @08:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the true-or-false dept.

From the Vox:

Many American pundits seem to firmly believe that the country stands at a precipice in which young, left-wing college students and recent graduates are the leading edge of a rising tide of illiberalism that comes in the form of “political correctness” and poses a clear and present danger to free speech and rational discourse.

[...] The alarm about student protesters, in other words, though not always mistaken about particular cases, is generally grounded in a completely mistaken view of the big-picture state of American society and public opinion, both on and off campus.

[...] Since the 1970s, the General Social Survey has posed a question about whether five hypothetical speakers should be allowed to give a speech in your community — a communist, a homosexual, an opponent of all religion, a racist, and a person who favors replacing the elected government with a military coup.

Justin Murphy of the University of Southampton in the United Kingdom aggregated trend data about all five kinds of speakers and found that public support for free expression has been generally rising


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @01:39AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @01:39AM (#658174)

    Wise words but I am a centrist liberal. We're not talking about "liberal snowflakes", we're talking about self-entitled, narcissistic, neo-Marxist snowflakes who's egotism is based on lies. All the hero's of the far-left were mass-murders yet they insist on denying this history and claim they have some kind of moral high ground. It's pure sociopathy, the far-left has never helped the oppressed, it has systematically murdered them in greater numbers than every other political philosophy combined*.

    * Excluding Islam.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 26 2018, @02:22AM (2 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday March 26 2018, @02:22AM (#658189) Journal

    Don't confuse economic left/right with social left/right. One of those is the communism---laissez-faire axis, and the other is the libertarian---authoritarian axis. You're trying to smear socially-left people with the brush that is (rightfully!) used to tar the hard-authoritarian collectivists.

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @12:02AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @12:02AM (#658713)

      You're trying to smear socially-left people with the brush that is (rightfully!) used to tar the hard-authoritarian collectivists.

      No, I was not. I am myself a left leaning liberal, one who is disgusted with the far-left labelling people with center left views as "fascist". Liberals can not be fascists because they are not Marxists. [spectator.co.uk]

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 27 2018, @02:10AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday March 27 2018, @02:10AM (#658749) Journal

        So ignore the nutbars. Most Christians ignore Westboro, most feminists ignore the "PiV is rape!" crowd, and you can ignore the frothy fringes.

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @02:40AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 26 2018, @02:40AM (#658192)

    Wise words but I am a centrist liberal.

    No, you are not! You are a fucking Republican! Own it, you America destroying bastard!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @12:08AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @12:08AM (#658714)

      Yeah, imagine someone living in a constitutional republic being a small "r" republican. The horror!

  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday March 26 2018, @05:37PM (1 child)

    by Thexalon (636) on Monday March 26 2018, @05:37PM (#658550)

    The real story of political sociopathy is this: Once you have it in your head that the right way to deal with people who disagree with you is to kill them, the main limitation on the size of the ensuing massacre is technology and the cost. Every political philosophy that exists on the planet has gotten to that point at some time in its history, excepting those political philosophies that have never been implemented on enough of a scale to find out whether it would do this.

    That's why I can't take seriously any ideas along the lines of "My political philosophy is pure and good and would never murder anybody, whereas other political philosophies are evil and kill innocent people."

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    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @12:21AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @12:21AM (#658718)

      The real story of political sociopathy is this: Once you have it in your head that the right way to deal with people who disagree with you is to "deplatform them"

      Herbert Marcuse [rudd-o.com] and Saul Alinski [americanthinker.com] were sociopaths yet they murdered nobody (that we know of). This is the real socio-political problem.