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posted by janrinok on Monday March 26 2018, @11:09PM   Printer-friendly
from the does-any-other-nation-do-this? dept.

Submitted via IRC for AndyTheAbsurd

UPDATE, March 23, 2018: President Donald Trump signed the $1.3 trillion government spending bill—which includes the CLOUD Act—into law Friday morning.

"People deserve the right to a better process." Those are the words of Jim McGovern, representative for Massachusetts and member of the House of Representatives Committee on Rules, when, after 8:00 PM EST on Wednesday, he and his colleagues were handed a 2,232-page bill to review and approve for a floor vote by the next morning.

In the final pages of the bill—meant only to appropriate future government spending—lawmakers snuck in a separate piece of legislation that made no mention of funds, salaries, or budget cuts. Instead, this final, tacked-on piece of legislation will erode privacy protections around the globe.

[...] As we wrote before, the CLOUD Act is a far-reaching, privacy-upending piece of legislation that will:

  • Enable foreign police to collect and wiretap people's communications from U.S. companies, without obtaining a U.S. warrant.
  • Allow foreign nations to demand personal data stored in the United States, without prior review by a judge.
  • Allow the U.S. president to enter "executive agreements" that empower police in foreign nations that have weaker privacy laws than the United States to seize data in the United States while ignoring U.S. privacy laws.
  • Allow foreign police to collect someone's data without notifying them about it.
  • Empower U.S. police to grab any data, regardless if it's a U.S. person's or not, no matter where it is stored.

Source: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/responsibility-deflected-cloud-act-passes

See also: As the CLOUD Act sneaks into the omnibus, big tech butts heads with privacy advocates


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @01:50AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @01:50AM (#658745)

    I'm going to have to figure out what to do about email,

    If you run your own email server like was intended then as far as your archive at rest, you have control. Yes, anything you send someone is open to being hoovered from that someones account, but your stored archive is safe.

    And, no, I don't mean 'run email on Linode or other host', I mean "run your email server from your basement, where it is totally under your control".

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  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Tuesday March 27 2018, @02:48AM (4 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Tuesday March 27 2018, @02:48AM (#658766)

    And, no, I don't mean 'run email on Linode or other host', I mean "run your email server from your basement, where it is totally under your control".

    No one does that any more. Try it and you'll be blacklisted by all the major email players, so you won't be able to communicate with anyone. The spammers ruined that part of the internet for everyone.

    What we really need is email 2.0, which lets people run their own servers again, has encryption baked-in, and somehow prevents spam from being a problem. I don't know offhand how this would work though.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday March 27 2018, @03:58AM

      by frojack (1554) on Tuesday March 27 2018, @03:58AM (#658798) Journal

      If you have the proper certificates from let's encrypt or someone, you can do this just fine.

      But it's not necessary as you can encrypt mail just fine without running your own server.
      And your mail may sit on several different mail servers along the way. Someone may figure out who you talk to, but not what you talk about.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by NotSanguine on Tuesday March 27 2018, @04:26AM

      No one does that any more. Try it and you'll be blacklisted by all the major email players, so you won't be able to communicate with anyone. The spammers ruined that part of the internet for everyone.

      What we really need is email 2.0, which lets people run their own servers again, has encryption baked-in, and somehow prevents spam from being a problem. I don't know offhand how this would work though.

      I've been running my own email server on my own hardware for more than 15 years. A couple of times back in the mid 2000's, I got blacklisted for no apparent reason. I used the tools available to me to get off said blacklists with minimal effort.

      These days, you don't get blacklisted when you're using SPF/DKIM to validate the email sourced from your server.

      I guess that your "email 2.0" is here and it's called SPF [wikipedia.org]/DKIM [wikipedia.org], as we can (not that we ever couldn't) run our own email servers again.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @03:28PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @03:28PM (#659007)

      Hillary sure did. Just sayin'.

      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday March 27 2018, @08:15PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday March 27 2018, @08:15PM (#659133)

        Hillary also has slightly more money than me. I can't just throw money at all my problems until they go away.

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