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posted by janrinok on Monday March 26 2018, @11:09PM   Printer-friendly
from the does-any-other-nation-do-this? dept.

Submitted via IRC for AndyTheAbsurd

UPDATE, March 23, 2018: President Donald Trump signed the $1.3 trillion government spending bill—which includes the CLOUD Act—into law Friday morning.

"People deserve the right to a better process." Those are the words of Jim McGovern, representative for Massachusetts and member of the House of Representatives Committee on Rules, when, after 8:00 PM EST on Wednesday, he and his colleagues were handed a 2,232-page bill to review and approve for a floor vote by the next morning.

In the final pages of the bill—meant only to appropriate future government spending—lawmakers snuck in a separate piece of legislation that made no mention of funds, salaries, or budget cuts. Instead, this final, tacked-on piece of legislation will erode privacy protections around the globe.

[...] As we wrote before, the CLOUD Act is a far-reaching, privacy-upending piece of legislation that will:

  • Enable foreign police to collect and wiretap people's communications from U.S. companies, without obtaining a U.S. warrant.
  • Allow foreign nations to demand personal data stored in the United States, without prior review by a judge.
  • Allow the U.S. president to enter "executive agreements" that empower police in foreign nations that have weaker privacy laws than the United States to seize data in the United States while ignoring U.S. privacy laws.
  • Allow foreign police to collect someone's data without notifying them about it.
  • Empower U.S. police to grab any data, regardless if it's a U.S. person's or not, no matter where it is stored.

Source: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/responsibility-deflected-cloud-act-passes

See also: As the CLOUD Act sneaks into the omnibus, big tech butts heads with privacy advocates


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @01:02PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @01:02PM (#658945)

    Great, another person telling shooters what they do and don't need who doesn't shoot or know anything about it.

    Lets ban 90% of the guns in the US (semi-auto) and whip out hyperbole about claymores. And god forbid anyone who went for help with anxiety or depression should keep doing their hobby. Better to have them avoid going to the doctor while suffering in silence.

    Why does anyone need more than a 500sq ft home, a large truck or a big screen TV. 640k is enough for everyone. Large hard drives facilitate piracy. Calorie limits now, everyone is fat.. if it just saves one life.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by NotSanguine on Tuesday March 27 2018, @01:57PM (3 children)

    Lets ban 90% of the guns in the US (semi-auto) and whip out hyperbole about claymores. And god forbid anyone who went for help with anxiety or depression should keep doing their hobby. Better to have them avoid going to the doctor while suffering in silence.

    Who was it that said anything even remotely like that? It certainly wasn't me.

    The vast majority of gun owners are responsible with their weapons.

    What's more, I never suggested that any particular type of weapon be banned, or that anyone should have their firearms confiscated.

    I did ask what the use case for high-capacity magazines and devices like bump stocks. Under what circumstances is a bump stock or a 100 round magazine useful, other than to mow down large numbers of people as quickly as possible?

    My point WRT to .50 cals and claymores pertains to the ridiculous assertion that having a gun is real protection against a tyrannical government. Given the state of weapons technology, having an AR-15 and/or other similar weapons aren't going to stop even local/state police from taking you down, let alone the US government, should they choose to do so.

    I suppose you could run away and live in the woods ala Red Dawn [wikipedia.org] and stay out of government custody with an AR-15, but that doesn't fit the narrative that such weapons can and will keep an out of control government at bay.

    If your argument is that the "right to bear arms" (not scare/sarcasm quotes, just being specific) is to make sure that the good citizens of the US can, as a last resort, use those arms to control/remove a tyrannical government, then it makes sense to advocate for access to arms that *could* achieve that goal.

    It's pretty clear that guns (handguns and long guns both) aren't anywhere near sufficient to the task. As such, it would make sense to advocate for free access to large caliber guns, rocket-propelled grenades and launchers, stinger missiles, claymores and other ordnance. Given that no one is doing so, it seems that "keeping tyrannical government at bay" isn't the real concern.

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    No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @02:18PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @02:18PM (#658975)

      You think any government that uses missiles against it's own citizen could last? The best thing for any rebellion would be for the government to send in the military to bomb them. We can't bomb people in the desert without killing noncombatants, you think it would be easier at home? .gov kills 100k innocent children with a tactical nuke, I'm sure that will look good on the front page of the newspaper.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @02:47PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @02:47PM (#658991)

        Well look at Syria currently ... and in this time of mass surveillance, how many bullets do you think it takes to crush a rebellion? I tell you now, 1.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @05:38PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @05:38PM (#659053)

        > .gov kills 100k innocent children with a tactical nuke, I'm sure that will look good on the front page of the newspaper.

        "Terrorists detonate a nuclear weapon in #city; martial law declared; Internet services suspended; elections postponed until crisis is over"

        You severely underestimate a government's ability to control the narrative, at least for a limited time (measured in years or decades). See China, North Korea, Russia...