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posted by janrinok on Tuesday March 27 2018, @07:36PM   Printer-friendly
from the legal-but-immoral dept.

Companies learning to flip elections perfected their tactics in smaller or emerging countries, such as Latvia, Trinidad, or Nigeria, before turning to markets involving elections in developed nations. Paul Mason suggests that while at the moment there is a lot of angst from people being reminded of how their harvested data is used, it is really the union of private espionage, cracking, and "black ops" capabilities that should be setting off alarms.

Disturbingly, both CA and SCL have high-level contracts with governments, giving them access to secret intelligence both in the US and the UK. SCL is on List X, which allows it to hold British secret intelligence at its facilities.

It now appears that techniques they used in Ukraine and Eastern Europe to counteract Russian influence, and against Islamist terrorism in the Middle East, were then used to influence elections in the heart of Western democracy itself.

Let's be clear about what we're facing. A mixture of free market dogmatism plus constraints imposed by the rule of law has led, over the past decades, to the creation of an alternative, private, secret state.

When it was only focused on the enemies and rivals of the West, or hapless politicians in the global south, nobody minded. Now it is being used as a weapon to tear apart democracy in Britain and the US we care — and rightly so.

From New Statesman: We need to destroy the election-rigging industry before it destroys us


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Wednesday March 28 2018, @07:59AM (2 children)

    but it's misleading to claim that white people were a homogeneous group that tolerated each other when the historical record is pretty clear that the concept of white people as a group wasn't something that was a thing in the US until relatively recently.

    Really? Where exactly did you get that idea?

    I'm sorry to spoil your little "whites were so good to the poor little black people. They just took them right into their houses and begged them to fuck their daughters!" buillshit narrative.

    For pretty much the entire 18th and 19th centuries, the white *abolitionists* overwhelmingly wanted to repatriate all blacks back to Africa. After the civil war, a large majority of white Americans still favored repatriation.

    Why do you think Liberia exists? That was in 1820. And additional ventures took free blacks to Haiti and Sierra Leone [kalamu.com].

    The overwhelming majority of non-slave owning whites (including most abolitionists) wanted to keep the US free from blacks and other non-protestant, non-europeans. Which is, of course, why the Irish and Italians (catholics), the jews, the Chinese, the Japanese and anyone else who wasn't white, protestant and of European extraction were discriminated against, both informally and legally. And the blacks were beneath all of those groups in the eyes of the white majority, well into the second half of the 20th century.

    Abraham Lincoln himself frequently said that while he didn't want slavery, he didn't want to live among blacks either, and favored repatriation/re-colonization.

    As well as earlier cases smacking down the blacks, in 1896, SCOTUS in Plessy v. Ferguson [wikipedia.org]Plessy v. Ferguson ruled that:

    When summarizing, Justice Brown declared, "We consider the underlying fallacy of the plaintiff's argument to consist in the assumption that the enforced separation of the two races stamps the colored race with a badge of inferiority. If this be so, it is not by reason of anything found in the act, but solely because the colored race chooses to put that construction upon it.

    If you want a more immediate discussion of this, check out CSPAN's recent review [c-span.org] of the case.

    In this case, SCOTUS codified the horrendous Jim Crow laws [wikipedia.org] and giving the imprimatur of the federal government to completely segregate blacks and whites. While the most egregious, blatant, government-sponsored forms of segregation were *mostly* stopped no more than 50 years ago.

    And you wonder why black people are really touchy about this stuff? Many places are still highly segregated, and blacks are subject to much more police harassment, discrimination in jobs, housing and a raft of other ways.

    And some asshole like you comes out and spews a bunch of complete bullshit that doesn't comport *in any way* with reality, then gets modded +5 'insightful'?

    You're spouting off with absolutely no facts to back you up. Why don't you study a little history? No wonder blacks are pissed off.

    But it's so much easier to get folks to nod sagely and agree with your completely bigoted, and completely false, account of history. Fewer folks would do so if you just wandered around talking about how inferior the niggers are.

    Either way, you're woefully misinformed, a bigoted scumbag or both. Probably both.

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    No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 28 2018, @01:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 28 2018, @01:23PM (#659481)

    Irrespective of all the woe-is-me bitching that "African" Americans seem to promulgate, I have yet to see any of them to scramble for tickets back to the motherland where they seem to think they had it so well if the white man had not stripped them of their peaceful, Utopian existence. Victimhood seems to be the only industry they excel at. It's time to grow up and stop acting like a petulant child, and maybe things would go better for you.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @05:01AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @05:01AM (#660287)

    Let's not forget that there is physically difference between Europe and Asia apart from color of people living there. And it is purely an invention of the whites, nobody in rest of the world bothered to create a place for people based on color.