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posted by martyb on Friday March 30 2018, @12:27PM   Printer-friendly
from the increasing-cost-of-living dept.

Common Dreams reports

Teachers in Oklahoma applauded the state Senate's passage of a $447 million bill to fund educators' first raise in a decade by raising taxes on oil and gas production as well as cigarettes and fuel--but warned that the plan is not enough to keep them from striking.

The proposal was approved in a 36-10 vote on Wednesday night [March 28] after weeks of speculation that teachers would stage a walkout beginning April 2 to demand salary increases as well as more funding for their overcrowded schools--where teachers are frequently forced to pay for supplies out of their own pockets.

"While this is major progress, this investment alone will not undo a decade of neglect", said Oklahoma Education Association (OEA) President Alicia Priest in a press release.[1] "Lawmakers have left funding on the table that could be used immediately to help Oklahoma students."

The mobilization by teachers in Oklahoma follows a multi-day strike in West Virginia earlier this month during which educators and school employees also occupied the state capitol to demand raises and a permanent funding solution for their health insurance program. The West Virginia strike kept the state's schools closed for nine consecutive school days and continued after lawmakers passed a one-time five percent raise, with teachers insisting that all their demands be met.

[...] "This package doesn't overcome shortfall caused by four-day weeks, overcrowded classrooms that deprive kids of the one-on-one attention they need. It's not enough", Priest said. "We must continue to push for more annual funding for our schools to reduce class size and restore more of the 28 percent of funds they cut from education over the last decade."

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by AndyTheAbsurd on Friday March 30 2018, @12:49PM (18 children)

    by AndyTheAbsurd (3958) on Friday March 30 2018, @12:49PM (#660348) Journal

    Anyone else think that the

    >> We're going to strike unless our demands our met!
    << Okay, we'll meet your demands!
    >> Well, you've been pissing us off for a long time, so we're going to strike anyway!

    nature of this particular protest is setting a bad precedent?

    Hopefully I'm misunderstanding what's going on in Oklahoma.

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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @12:58PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @12:58PM (#660350)

    It isn't about practical outcomes; it's about dominance; it's about emotion.

    You are being forced at the point of a gun to fund these imbeciles. It's totally absurd—it's anathema to a free society.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @02:02PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @02:02PM (#660362)

      Uf you think education is expensive, try ignorance.

      • (Score: 4, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 30 2018, @03:34PM (2 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 30 2018, @03:34PM (#660404) Journal

        You do realize that some of the most ignorant sons of bitches in the world have been treated to very expensive educations?

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @07:20PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @07:20PM (#660484)

          You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @11:20PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @11:20PM (#660601)

            "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't lead a horticulture."
            Betsy DeVos, (exampla gratia, non auctoris.)

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @03:54PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @03:54PM (#660409)

        I think our school system is expensive and it still pumps out ignoramuses in massive numbers. Rote memorization factories are not exactly good at educating people, after all. 'It's better than nothing.' is about the best you can say.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @01:30PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @01:30PM (#660355)

    Keep reading.

    "This package doesn't overcome shortfall caused by four-day weeks, overcrowded classrooms that deprive kids of the one-on-one attention they need. It's not enough"

    So it's:

    >> We're going to strike unless our demands our met!
    << Okay, we'll meet your demands!
    >> Uh, you didn't. We're still underfunded. We're going to strike until you do.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @07:46PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @07:46PM (#660499)

      There was a similar "settlement" in West Virginia the other week.
      33,000 Teachers Stage Wildcat Strike in West Virginia; Into a Second Week [2018-03-07] [soylentnews.org]

      What they got was a 5 percent pay raise for all public sector workers.
      The way that will be funded will be to further cut the safety net for the infamously impoverished Working Class in West Virginia without touching the incredibly rich Dirty Energy corporations within the state.

      In addition, what was missing from the deal was their big gripes: the improvement of the healthcare funding structure and fewer kids per classroom.

      ...and the thing about poor kids [google.com] is that you never know which one is going to prove to be the next genius. [google.com]

      -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @11:25PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @11:25PM (#660606)

      Four days of school a week is fine. Children spend too long in those rote memorization prisons as it is. Quality over quantity. Sadly, our school system has nothing in the way of quality.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 31 2018, @02:30AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 31 2018, @02:30AM (#660682)

        Leave it to Beaver is mostly fiction--and that was true even when it was in production.
        Adult females in households don't do housework in high heels and pearls.
        ...and in most households these days, both parents work outside the home in order to pay the bills.
        So, what are the parents of those kids supposed to do on that 5th day?
        Miss a day of work?

        You consume way too much Fox so-called News.
        The fantasy world they would like to to believe in doesn't exist.
        ...and hasn't, going back at least to Reagan.

        -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @02:14PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @02:14PM (#660368)

    It isn't about practical outcomes; it's about dominance; it's about emotion.

    You are being forced at the point of a gun to fund these imbeciles. It's totally absurd—it's anathema to a free society.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by donkeyhotay on Friday March 30 2018, @02:31PM (2 children)

    by donkeyhotay (2540) on Friday March 30 2018, @02:31PM (#660376)

    I live in Oklahoma and am pretty familiar with the situation. Yes, you are misunderstanding. The legislature did not meet the teachers' demands. They passed a funding bill that only partially meets the striking teachers' demands and is temporary in nature.

    • (Score: 2) by AndyTheAbsurd on Friday March 30 2018, @02:59PM

      by AndyTheAbsurd (3958) on Friday March 30 2018, @02:59PM (#660390) Journal

      Great, thanks for the clarification.

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    • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday March 30 2018, @03:12PM

      by Sulla (5173) on Friday March 30 2018, @03:12PM (#660399) Journal

      So at the end of the year their pay goes back down by 5%? Temporary and non-continuous are not the same.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @02:37PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @02:37PM (#660379)

    > gt; We're going to strike unless our demands our met!
    < < Okay, we'll meet your demands!
    > gt; Well, you've been pissing us off for a long time, so we're going to strike anyway!

    That's how Pravda is no doubt presenting it. Teacher unions seek rotten deal as momentum grows for April 2 statewide walkout in Oklahoma [wsws.org]:

    The determination of the unions to impose a sellout deal was demonstrated by the raising of a series of inadequate demands. The plan, which spreads increases over three years, calls for $10,000 in teacher raises; $5,000 for support professionals, and $200 million for schools for operational costs such as textbooks, transportation and additional teachers.

    Note that's what the union is pushing, which the teacher think is insufficient. The unions are working for the elites to try to stifle worker discontent with stagnant wages and spiraling healthcare costs (only spiraling because of our insurance-industrial complex).

    Oklahoma teachers reject funding bill, prepare to strike [wsws.org]:

    Oklahoma teachers have reacted with disgust and anger over the pay offer and the school-funding bill signed into law by Republican Governor Mary Fallin Thursday afternoon. Teachers are preparing for a statewide strike by over 40,000 educators on Monday, April 2.

    While the governor praised the bipartisan deal for giving teachers the “largest raise in Oklahoma history,” the one-time increase of between $5,000 to $7,000, depending on years of service, will do little for teachers who are ranked 49th in the nation in pay. Teachers have not had a raise in a decade even as they have borne higher out-of-pocket costs for health care and pensions.

    So even here, the pay increase isn't even meeting what the union wanted to settle for.

    While claiming there were no resources for public education, let alone pay raises, the Democrats and Republicans over the last decade have handed billions of dollars in tax breaks to the state’s energy corporations.

    Arizona teachers protest as Oklahoma educators battle union sabotage [wsws.org]:

    Last week, the OEA and OFT put forward a “roadmap” to Republican Governor Mary Fallin and the state legislature to prevent the strike, which called for a $10,000 raise over three years. This would be paid for largely through regressive consumption taxes that would hit working-class residents the hardest, combined with a small increase in taxes on the oil and gas industry.

    On Wednesday night, the State Senate voted 36-10 to back a bill passed by the State House of Representatives earlier in the week by a 79-19 margin. The bill only provides a one-time $6,000 raise and does nothing to reverse the decades-long school funding cuts, which have led to larger class sizes, fewer supplies and four-day class schedules in some districts.

    I also want to point out that the protest was organized through Facebook. That is the main reason Facebook has fallen out of favor with the establishment. It really has so little to do with SJWs and identity politics. In fact, it's because identity politics is failing to keep the masses placated that we see the push for internet censorship.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @03:42PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @03:42PM (#660407)

      OriginalLoser forgot to sign his post. No one else here cites wswswswswswswswsws

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @04:21PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @04:21PM (#660421)

        Well, you've now got somebody else who does, but I admit that Original Gewg_ is who turned me on to WSWS. I read WSWS daily now.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @07:56PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 30 2018, @07:56PM (#660506)

          You can find viewpoints there that you won't see anywhere else.

          I'm especially fond of the way they repeatedly call e.g. The International Socialist Organization (socialistworker.org) and Workers World Party (workers.org) "pseudo-Left" when those guys e.g. praise crappy deals that union officials have accepted followed by a back-to-work order for the rank and file.

          -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]