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posted by janrinok on Saturday March 31 2018, @11:24PM   Printer-friendly
from the happy-birthday-to-you dept.

As of March 31st, Mozilla has turned two decades old.

Netscape Communications made two important announcements on January 23rd, 1998:

  • First, that the Netscape Communicator product would be available free of charge;
  • Second, that the source code for Communicator would also be free.

On March 31st, the first developer release of the source code to Communicator was made available.

Sources:
mozilla.org is 20 years old
Mozilla marks 20th anniversary with commitment to better human experiences online


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @01:25AM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @01:25AM (#661018)

    Humanity tends to whiplash from one extreme to another and Eich was a victim of tolerance gone wrong. The upside is that his suffering is a small step in society learning to balance ideologies.

    Then again he was supporting legislation to discriminate against a rather large number of people so I personally won't be losing sleep over it.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @01:38AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @01:38AM (#661024)

    He funded them for a sufficient amount of money to *REQUIRE DISCLOSING IT PUBLICLY*. If there were not concerns with people providing imbalanced financial lobbying for legislative positions without having to face the public scrutiny of them, then I might agree with you. But since it is not, and he was well over the.... $200 dollar limit on providing donations without having to disclose them, he CHOSE to make his position publicly known. As a result of that choice he put his position as head of a decidedly 'liberal' organization in question when he chose to do so. The same would happen with a liberal working their way to a leadership position in an otherwise conservative organization, and has happened a few times in the last two decades that I can remember.

    Point being, whether or not your private views fit with your organization's ideals, you don't make them financially and publicly discernable if you expect to attain and retain a position as the head of an organization whose social stance is opposite of your financially disclosed or publically documented political views.

    Personally, given that he's the reason we have JavaScript, I would say that is reason enough he shouldn't be the head of Mozilla, and I said as much before he became president or ceo or whatever.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Arik on Sunday April 01 2018, @02:03AM

      by Arik (4543) on Sunday April 01 2018, @02:03AM (#661034) Journal
      "as head of a decidedly 'liberal' organization"

      This is just the thing, it's not *supposed* to be a liberal organization. In fact it appears to be illegal for a 501(c)(3) to be political in nature. Their early documents and fund-raising certainly didn't create the expectation that this was a political organization, and scanning their current manifesto I still see nothing of a partisan nature here. Yett that's clearly what they've become. A partisan, 'progressive' democratic party front that happens to own an important codebase, and abuses it constantly.

      --
      If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @02:06AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @02:06AM (#661036)

      he was well over the.... $200 dollar limit on providing donations without having to disclose them, he CHOSE to make his position publicly known.

      I see your point but so what?

      As a result of that choice he put his position as head of a decidedly 'liberal' organization in question when he chose to do so.

      There was nothing liberal about what went on there.

      retain a position as the head of an organization whose social stance is opposite

      There were plenty of gays opposed to gay marriage and zero evidence presented for any professional misconduct or workplace discrimination on the part of Brendan Eich.

      Personally, given that he's the reason we have JavaScript, I would say that is reason enough he shouldn't be the head of Mozilla

      What exactly is the difference in saying that someone should not be head of a company for developing a dynamic, prototyped based scripting language and arriving at the same conclusion based on sexual proclivity or religious belief?

      Rust sucks donkey dick though eh?

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @02:24AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @02:24AM (#661040)

      tl;dr whole thread

      Personally, given that he's the reason we have JavaScript...

      HANG HIM!!!

      p.s. what were we talking about again?

    • (Score: 2) by unauthorized on Sunday April 01 2018, @12:58PM

      by unauthorized (3776) on Sunday April 01 2018, @12:58PM (#661131)

      Nice try at alt history there, but the reason he was fired... *ahem* sorry, I meant "strongly encouraged to step down", was because of an artificial public outrage that forced Mozilla's hand. Maybe he would have been fired either way, but we don't have any good evidence to suggest so.

      Personally, given that he's the reason we have JavaScript, I would say that is reason enough he shouldn't be the head of Mozilla, and I said as much before he became president or ceo or whatever.

      Give the guy a break, it was a different time back when JS was first implemented, nobody could have foreseen the monster it will become.

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday April 01 2018, @01:38AM (3 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 01 2018, @01:38AM (#661025) Journal

    Humanity tends to whiplash . . . learning to balance ideologies.

    I don't see much hope there.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @01:48AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @01:48AM (#661030)

      You wouldn't, but I'll try not to hold it against you.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @02:12AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 01 2018, @02:12AM (#661037)

      Where has the blue tick of teh gay come from all of a sudden, have we become soylent-twitter? Is Runaway now a verified liberal? Enquiring minds would like to know.

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday April 01 2018, @04:16AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday April 01 2018, @04:16AM (#661052) Homepage

        Probably an early April-fools day gag. Funny enough, I didn't know that was from twitter until I read your comment. Personally I would have preferred a gold star of David with the word "Jude" innit.