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London Mayor Sadiq Khan is cracking down on the carrying of knives in response to a spate of stabbings that pushed the city's murder rate past New York's for the "first time in modern history."
Khan deployed an additional 300 Metropolitan Police officers over the weekend to work exclusively against knife crime, urging them to be more "confident" in their authority to stop anyone suspected of carrying a weapon.
"What you will see over the course of the next few weeks and months — is what we have seen over the last few weeks and months — which is stop-and-search based on suspicion of carrying an offensive weapon going up, more arrests as a consequence of this intelligence-led stop-and-search going up and hopefully our city becoming safer," the mayor said Saturday, according to The Telegraph.
Khan also issued a warning to would-be knife carriers, saying they should think twice before bringing one out in public — whatever the reason.
"No excuses: there is never a reason to carry a knife," Khan said on Twitter. "Anyone who does will be caught, and they will feel the full force of the law."
Source: http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/08/london-murder-rate-knives/
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Rivenaleem on Monday April 09 2018, @08:42AM (11 children)
From the Article:
So the UK already has a law in place that prohibits the carrying of knives longer than 3 inches "without good reason". Most work knives (for carpenters, electricians etc) are shorter than 3 inches (the trusty Stanley blade) and are retractable. If you were stopped and searched, you would be allowed to give an explanation as to why you are carrying anything longer.
I teach and train martial arts and was stopped only a couple of times carrying a bag of blunt training swords and any law enforcement officer I've ever interacted with was very reasonable. Once shown that they were not a deadly weapon, once I show them my ID and my school details, they let me go on my way. No police officer has every over-reacted to a bag of swords and drawn a weapon on me or treated me with anything other than calm and respect.
Then again, I'm not in a police state.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Monday April 09 2018, @08:51AM (5 children)
Can you please be more clear about where the above happened to you and which exactly is the police state you are referring to (or give an example, if possible many other states would qualify in your opinion)? Thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 5, Insightful) by TheRaven on Monday April 09 2018, @09:09AM (1 child)
sudo mod me up
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09 2018, @03:59PM
I also live in the UK.
I live very very close to the place where a policeman shot some guy dead who was carrying a table leg because he thought it was a gun.
(Should have gone to Specsavers). In a separate and allegedly unrelated incident not very far away, one armed police officer shot
another dead at a range of about 25 feet.
It may not be a police state, but the plod are not recruited on the basis of brain power.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Rivenaleem on Monday April 09 2018, @09:48AM
I'm in Ireland. I was crossing a university campus from the car park to the sports centre (I sometimes park further away to get a little walk in before class). Sure there's a bit of exaggeration but the US really isn't that far from a Police state, and London, which is certainly a surveillance state, isn't far behind.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09 2018, @03:07PM (1 child)
Not OP, but you're blind if you can't see that the Fascist Corporations of America is the most well-known police state currently in existence. (Apologies to OP if he means a different police state.) A police state filled with chicken-shit, pants-pissing, shoot first ask questions never, roid-raging man-baby police, but still a police state.
America: Lane of the fee, home of the terrified.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday April 09 2018, @03:25PM
Whoaa, there... I didn't raised the question implying a denoal there is a police state somewhere.
I simply asked "What was the place where police still showed common sense and which police state you are alluding to?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09 2018, @02:44PM (3 children)
I cannot help this one, he is too far gone.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09 2018, @03:16PM (2 children)
That's not a police state. This is what happens in a police state:
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Victim is hit twice and was carrying a cell phone...
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09 2018, @06:56PM (1 child)
No, that is far from Police state buddy. I lived in a police state behind iron curtain. What you describe is quite exactly the fucking opposite.
The video of the incident is freely available, all the Officers are under investigation. And while I cannot speak about the outcome or judge it as fair or not, in a police state you NEVER hear about the people who "disappear", especially not on TV. dumbass.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09 2018, @07:07PM
Ah, the good old 'not as bad as' fallacy. Some police states are worse than others. I'd say any country which uses mass surveillance is automatically a police state, even if they don't yet (yes, "yet," since it's an inevitability) use that capability for mass oppression. Yes, right now they only use it to oppress whistleblowers, journalists, activists, political opponents, and other people who are critically important to a functioning democracy.
As for matters such as this going to court, I should remind you that the courts often side with the police even when that means siding against the Constitution. Judges are often authoritarians who give insane amounts of leeway to thug officers. The mere fact that cases like this go to court does not mean we don't live in a police state; at most, it might mean that our police state is not as bad as others that have existed.
If you can't see the police states being slowly created right under your nose, you are blind.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09 2018, @07:00PM
Any society which utilizes mass surveillance is necessarily a police state.