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posted by mrpg on Monday April 09 2018, @04:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the people-kill-people dept.

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As tens of millions of Americans come to grips with revelations that data from Facebook may have been used to sway the 2016 presidential election, on the other side of the world, rights groups say hatemongers have taken advantage of the social network to widely disseminate inflammatory, anti-Muslim speech in Myanmar.

The rhetoric is aimed almost exclusively at the disenfranchised Rohingya Muslim minority, a group which has been the target of a sustained campaign of violence and abuse by the Myanmar military, which claims it is targeting terrorists.

Human rights activists inside the country and out tell CNN that posts range from recirculated news articles from pro-government outlets, to misrepresented or faked photos and anti-Rohingya cartoons.

[...] Zuckerberg told Vox hate speech is "a real issue, and we want to make sure that all of the tools that we're bringing to bear on eliminating hate speech, inciting violence, and basically protecting the integrity of civil discussions that we're doing in places like Myanmar, as well as places like the US that do get a disproportionate amount of the attention."

Source: When Facebook becomes 'the beast': Myanmar activists say social media aids genocide


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @05:57PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @05:57PM (#665039)

    Why again are only they being held accountable for some imaginary conflict?

    1. It's not imaginary. If you can't see this, it isn't for lack of evidence. It's willful.

    2. Nobody else has to be held accountable because nobody else is doing that shit.

    As opposed to Christians and the Bible, Communists and Das Kapital, or the many other religions and ideologies with a violent history? What makes Islam so special?

    Christians nearly never kick off a holy war or go attack people for their beliefs. In a world of billions of people you may find a few exceptions, but they are nothing compared to the intense violence of Islam. A few exceptional cases does not make the religions equivalent.

    Communists were vigorously opposed. We had that whole nuclear arms race, the proxy wars (Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, etc.), the trade restrictions against Warsaw Pact nations, the painful effort to chase down communists in the USA, the stand-off with Cuba, etc. This is the minimum effort that should be applied to dealing with Islam.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 11 2018, @04:44AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @04:44AM (#665227) Journal

    It's not imaginary. If you can't see this, it isn't for lack of evidence. It's willful.

    Bullshit. You've had a chance to show evidence. But all we see is a) a Muslim ethnic group only part of which are immigrants, and b) a small rebellion which could be dealt with in a far gentler and just way than genocide. Really here the bottom line is that you're advocating the persecution and murder of innocent people and you've yet to come up with a reason why we should take you seriously.

    We have to look at what's actually going on, not your bullshit fantasies. Anyone can claim anyone is doing wrong without even the pretense of evidence and demand genocide in response. It'll be heavily Orwellian, of course. But if you're not interested in truth, then it doesn't matter to you.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:26PM (4 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:26PM (#665374) Journal
    I forgot to comment on this part:

    Christians nearly never kick off a holy war or go attack people for their beliefs.

    They did plenty of times in the past. Why are Christians given a pass? Answer: because they don't do that any more, due in large part to huge cultural shifts to peaceful, accepting belief systems, laws against such things, and religious freedom. We simply apply the same processes of culture and law to Islam to get the same results.

    Nobody else has to be held accountable because nobody else is doing that shit.

    Exactly my problem with this whole thing. You claim, completely without justification, that Islam "does that shit". But we're speaking of people not ideology. What has the Islamic refugee done? At worst, it's have too many kids and be in the wrong place. That's a really pathetic accusation. They aren't doing holy wars - given the numbers, there would be huge numbers of deaths from the resulting fighting, if there was a real holy war going on rather than an imaginary one.

    And that's the huge problem with this. There's no evidence to support your argument. You're pulling this fantasy out of your ass.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:06PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:06PM (#665512)

      We simply apply the same processes of culture and law to Islam to get the same results.

      Good luck with that. Please don't drag me along for the ride.

      You are so confident that they will see the superiority of your own culture. You think that, surely, they will abandon their stone-age barbaric ways. They will see the light!

      This is not a gamble that a wise person would make.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:50AM (2 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:50AM (#665732) Journal

        We simply apply the same processes of culture and law to Islam to get the same results.

        Good luck with that. Please don't drag me along for the ride.

        Won't need luck. Sorry, Islamic cooties aren't that fierce.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 12 2018, @07:11AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 12 2018, @07:11AM (#665788)

          Sorry, Islamic cooties aren't that fierce.

          You're proven wrong in every place within the past 100 years. The only places where it isn't instantly obvious are the ones where the muslim population consists of a handful of well-paid and well-educated people... and even there, we see problems.

          It's as crazy as claiming that communism will work, or that gendered behavior is purely social conditioning, or that gun-free zones will work better than drug-free zones.

          Islam defends itself. Those who question it are attacked. Those who "reinterpret" the Koran are attacked. Those who leave are attacked. Those who fail to join are attacked. Nobody is free to leave, to speak out, to be moderate, or to argue against the most barbaric interpretation. This is why Islam is probably unstoppable and will never be reasonable about anything.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday April 12 2018, @12:07PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 12 2018, @12:07PM (#665866) Journal

            You're proven wrong in every place within the past 100 years.

            Name one such place.