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posted by fyngyrz on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:06PM   Printer-friendly
from the mark-down-mark-up dept.

The Washington Post has a retrospective on 14 years of Mark Zuckerberg saying sorry, not sorry:

From the moment the Facebook founder entered the public eye in 2003 for creating a Harvard student hot-or-not rating site, he's been apologizing. So we collected this abbreviated history of his public mea culpas.

See also:
Why Zuckerberg's 14-Year Apology Tour Hasn't Fixed Facebook.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bradley13 on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:12PM (23 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:12PM (#665455) Homepage Journal

    Zuckerberg is a classic sociopath. Of course he's "sorry", as in "sorry he got caught".

    He used to be more honest, when he called his first customers "dumbfucks" for trusting him. He's added a few layers of polish since then, but he's still the same guy: eager to share his customers' private information for the right price.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:20PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:20PM (#665458)

    Zuckerberg is a classic sociopath. Of course he's "sorry", as in "sorry he got caught".

    Pretty much every other person in that room on the day of questioning is of the exact same ilk.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:58PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:58PM (#665478)

      So who wins the shit fight? Does congress have enough shit on Zuck to cause him trouble, or does he have enough compromising information (in the FB archives, naturally) to scare the congress-critters into leaving him alone?

      It's really sad when the national debate of the day turns into a race to the bottom.

      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Wednesday April 11 2018, @07:12PM (1 child)

        by frojack (1554) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @07:12PM (#665481) Journal

        Congress doesn't need "shit" on you to cause you trouble. They just have to pass intelligent laws to protect people. (Not holding my breath).

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Wednesday April 11 2018, @07:29PM

          by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @07:29PM (#665489)

          Congress doesn't need "shit" on you to cause you trouble. They just have to threaten to pass laws to get people to "contribute".

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by richtopia on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:20PM (17 children)

    by richtopia (3160) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:20PM (#665459) Homepage Journal

    Zuckerberg is a classic sociopath. Of course he's "sorry", as in "sorry he got caught".

    He used to be more honest, when he called his first customers product "dumbfucks" for trusting him. He's added a few layers of polish since then, but he's still the same guy: eager to share his customers' products' private information for the right price.

    Fixed

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by krishnoid on Wednesday April 11 2018, @07:13PM (8 children)

      by krishnoid (1156) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @07:13PM (#665483)

      Blah blah blah, you're all missing the point. I forgive him for all of that, if it's even necessary, but for writing the whole website in PHP ... I just can't.

      • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:30PM (7 children)

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:30PM (#665530) Homepage Journal

        PHP.

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Nerdfest on Wednesday April 11 2018, @09:09PM

          by Nerdfest (80) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @09:09PM (#665550)

          It doesn't deserve capital letters. It should be lower case, in Comic Sans.

        • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Thursday April 12 2018, @06:12AM (4 children)

          by TheRaven (270) on Thursday April 12 2018, @06:12AM (#665769) Journal
          Facebook has a very impressive compiler team. They've figured out that it's cheaper to employ 10,000 cheap code monkeys and 100 compiler engineers to transform the crappy code that they write into something that runs fast than it is to employ 5,000 competent software developers. They do keep repeating the same mistakes though - first with PHP and then they wrote all of their mobile apps in JavaScript and found that they needed to write a faster JavaScript implementation to make performance not such there as well.
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          • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday April 12 2018, @09:09AM (3 children)

            by Wootery (2341) on Thursday April 12 2018, @09:09AM (#665813)

            Facebook wrote a JavaScript engine? I thought they just moved away from JavaScript and toward native mobile apps.

            • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Thursday April 12 2018, @09:27AM (2 children)

              by TheRaven (270) on Thursday April 12 2018, @09:27AM (#665821) Journal
              Their 'native' apps include a huge blob of JavaScript code running in a Facebook customised JavaScript engine.
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              • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday April 12 2018, @11:59AM (1 child)

                by Wootery (2341) on Thursday April 12 2018, @11:59AM (#665863)

                What secret sauce do they have that outperforms the JavaScript engines from Google/Mozilla/Apple?

                I'm not seeing anything like a Facebook JavaScript compiler from a quick web search - what's it called?

                • (Score: 3, Informative) by TheRaven on Friday April 13 2018, @07:37AM

                  by TheRaven (270) on Friday April 13 2018, @07:37AM (#666352) Journal

                  What secret sauce do they have that outperforms the JavaScript engines from Google/Mozilla/Apple?

                  Different optimisations for different use cases. Their code all uses one (apparently, very flexible but pretty terrible for performance) framework and so is all written in a specific style. Most JavaScript engines have to deal with code from a variety of different sources and care about geomean performance across a large range of benchmarks. Facebook's has to deal with code from a single source and cares about performance for that one codebase. This lets it do a bunch of things that aren't worth the effort for anyone else, because most code doesn't do the stupid things if they care about performance (see previous point about Facebook hiring cheap developers), and it can skip things that other VMs do that optimise cases that are common in general but not in their codebase.

                  I'm not seeing anything like a Facebook JavaScript compiler from a quick web search - what's it called?

                  I don't think they distribute it. One of my students worked on it before he came to do an MPhil.

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        • (Score: 2) by JeanCroix on Thursday April 12 2018, @05:36PM

          by JeanCroix (573) on Thursday April 12 2018, @05:36PM (#666053)
          ...Pointy-Haired Protocol?
    • (Score: 2, Disagree) by bob_super on Wednesday April 11 2018, @07:33PM (6 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @07:33PM (#665490)

      > customers product

      For the umpteenth time, the term you're looking for is "consumer".

      • (Score: 2, Disagree) by fritsd on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:18PM (5 children)

        by fritsd (4586) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:18PM (#665519) Journal

        I disagree; the Facebook consumers are people like the ones that paid Cambridge Analytica. They purchase and use the data sets that Facebook has collected and analyzed.

        • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:27PM (4 children)

          by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:27PM (#665527)

          You are wrong.
          Customers hand Facebook money : ads and data people
          Consumers use the service.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @09:18PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @09:18PM (#665554)

            Except that Facebook's "users" are not users, but useds. They are used by Facebook.

            • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday April 11 2018, @09:58PM (1 child)

              by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @09:58PM (#665573)

              Why do you say "except" ?
              It was already true in TV and radio : customers access the consumers via the service; the service uses its consumers to make a profit. News at 11.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 12 2018, @06:50AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 12 2018, @06:50AM (#665784)

                Because people who allow themselves to be used by Facebook are better described as "useds", "suckers", or some other such term.

          • (Score: 1) by fritsd on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:39PM

            by fritsd (4586) on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:39PM (#665972) Journal

            Oh allright, I think I see what you mean.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:16PM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:16PM (#665518) Homepage
      > he called his first customers productraw materials "dumbfucks" for trusting him It was too early, they weren't formed into products yet.
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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DannyB on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:31PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:31PM (#665531) Journal

    I would like to apologize to those who feel they have had their personal privacy compromised.

    I sincerely regret that those who were harmed by my actions had to discover that it was me who was to blame.

    I ask for your forgiveness and pledge that in the future I will not get caught doing anything like this ever again.

    I am deeply sorry that my bad judgment and poor choice of actions resulted in personal embarrassment for myself and those who helped me in selling your personal information to the highest (and lowest) bidder. However please feel free to blame those who coded the actual implementation.

    I take full responsibility for my negligence and lack of diligent care to ensure the privacy and confidentiality of our actions in selling your information. You have my personal assurance that I will be more careful next time.

    To all of those who were hurt by my inappropriate, selfish and thoughtless actions I would like to humbly offer my sincerest indifference.

    -- Zuckerbooger

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