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posted by fyngyrz on Wednesday April 11 2018, @09:38PM   Printer-friendly
from the that-really-zucks dept.

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Senator Kennedy of Louisiana confronted Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg about the transparency of the social media company's policies on Tuesday.

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"I'm going to suggest you go home and rewrite it, and tell your $1,200 dollar and[sic] hour lawyer...you want it written in English not Swahili, so the average American user can understand," Kennedy said.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/10/senator-to-zuckerberg-your-user-agreement-sucks.html


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  • (Score: 5, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:16PM (9 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:16PM (#665582) Journal

    If we mandate that some persons must sit at the back of the bus, government shouldn't object.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @11:31PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @11:31PM (#665625)

    Segregation was a government program.

    In a free market, someone would just start a bus service that doesn't denigrate its customers—or maybe one that caters only to black people.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday April 11 2018, @11:47PM (2 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @11:47PM (#665630) Journal

      Uh-huh. If that be so, then how did government enforce back of the bus policies? In actuality, it was enforced by a bus driver, and fellow riders. That is, it was enforced by individuals.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:37AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:37AM (#665726)

        Arguing is pointless. He lives in a magical world where violence and collusion both violate the laws of physics.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Thursday April 12 2018, @09:02AM

        by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Thursday April 12 2018, @09:02AM (#665809) Homepage
        You're suffering a complete failure of logic, or getting the wrong end of the wrong stick.

        Him: free-market solution
        You: No, if that, then stuff

        You've completely ignored the situation "there was no free market" scenario.

        In the absense of a free market, his free market solution wouldn't work, because it wouldn't be given a chance to work. And indeed, his free market solution was never even tried. All of your stuff is irrelevant to the point that GPP was trying to make - that the market isn't as free as you like to believe it is.
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    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Thexalon on Thursday April 12 2018, @01:41AM (4 children)

      by Thexalon (636) on Thursday April 12 2018, @01:41AM (#665686)

      Segregation was a government program.

      In a free market, someone would just start a bus service that doesn't denigrate its customers—or maybe one that caters only to black people.

      Segregation was part government policy, and part private business policy. There were some local ordinances like the Montgomery bus regulations, but there was lots of segregation implemented by business in the absence of regulation. For instance, there was no law requiring Woolworth's to refuse service to black patrons at their lunch counters. Why would a business do this? Simple: The population of white customers who wanted a segregated environment was larger and richer than the population of black customers. If you had to choose between selling to, say, 10,000 people with $30 a week in spare cash, and 7,000 people with $5 a week in spare cash, which would you pick?

      In that respect, making segregation illegal was probably good for business, since it meant that they could sell to black customers and tell the racist white customers that the government made them do it, thus making the racist white customers mad at the federal government rather than mad at the business.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 12 2018, @01:13PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 12 2018, @01:13PM (#665893)

        Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]:

        Jim Crow laws—sometimes, as in Florida, part of state constitutions—mandated the segregation of public schools, public places, and public transportation, and the segregation of restrooms, restaurants, and drinking fountains for whites and blacks…

        These Jim Crow laws revived principles of the 1865 and 1866 Black Codes, which had previously restricted the civil rights and civil liberties of African Americans.

        Segregation was a government program.

        • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:50PM

          by Thexalon (636) on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:50PM (#665977)

          There are businesses that racially segregate right now to the degree the law allows. For instance, I had one boss that announced to the entire open-plan office that he was refusing to hire somebody because he wasn't white (I left shortly thereafter). Had I had that candidate's contact information, I would have told him why he didn't get the job, and would have gladly testified against that particular employer in court. In businesses with less than 25 employees, that sort of thing is much harder to catch because they don't have to be Equal Opportunity Employers.

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        • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday April 12 2018, @04:13PM

          by Thexalon (636) on Thursday April 12 2018, @04:13PM (#665995)

          Another followup: Yes, if you look up the laws that created segregation, you're going to find the laws that created segregation. However, you won't find the private actions that created segregation, because that's outside the scope of that article. One of the most famous protests of the Civil Rights Movement was about a private policy: the Greensboro sit-ins [wikipedia.org].

          I know you want to believe that government is the root of all evil. But in this case, it's demonstrably not.

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      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:51PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:51PM (#665978)

        Why would a business do this? Simple: The population of white customers who wanted a segregated environment was larger and richer than the population of black customers. If you had to choose between selling to, say, 10,000 people with $30 a week in spare cash, and 7,000 people with $5 a week in spare cash, which would you pick?

        Plus this was the era when the racists were so pissed off they'd drag people off buses and beat them to death in broad daylight and get away with it. If I were a business owner can't say I'd really want that fury directed e.g. through the windows of my store ballistically.

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