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The Whois public database of domain name registration details is dead.
In a letter [PDF] sent this week to DNS overseer ICANN, Europe's data protection authorities have effectively killed off the current service, noting that it breaks the law and so will be illegal come 25 May, when GDPR comes into force.
The letter also has harsh words for ICANN's proposed interim solution, criticizing its vagueness and noting it needs to include explicit wording about what can be done with registrant data, as well as introduce auditing and compliance functions to make sure the data isn't being abused.
ICANN now has a little over a month to come up with a replacement to the decades-old service that covers millions of domain names and lists the personal contact details of domain registrants, including their name, email and telephone number.
ICANN has already acknowledged it has no chance of doing so: a blog post by the company in response to the letter warns that without being granted a special temporary exemption from the law, the system will fracture.
[...] Critics point out that ICANN has largely brought these problems on itself, having ignored official warnings from the Article 29 Working Party for nearly a decade, and only taking the GDPR requirements seriously six months ago when there has been a clear two-year lead time.
One company that is caught in the middle of the dispute is sanguine about the possible death of the service. "Is this the end of public Whois? Yes, in its current form," CEO of Irish registrar Blacknight, Michele Neylon told us. "But is it going to go completely dark? No."
Neylon has long complained about ICANN's refusal to acknowledge European law when it comes to the Whois service: back in 2013, he refused to sign an updated version of the contract that domain name sellers have with ICANN until it gave him a legal waiver over its data retention requirements.
"That decision probably cost us money, but if we have to choose between operating legally or illegally our path is clear," he wrote in a blog post this week.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @05:15AM (15 children)
What exactly is Europe shutting down and why are we letting them?? This is more censorship on steroids. How in the world are we going to overcome the tyrants??
(Score: 4, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday April 15 2018, @05:31AM (7 children)
Obama turned over our Internet to foreigners. To the global special interests. Time to TAKE IT BACK!
(Score: 5, Interesting) by janrinok on Sunday April 15 2018, @08:33AM (6 children)
Well, we would like our jet engines [wikipedia.org] back too. And you remember all those trains that you used to conquer the west and provide your vital communications, well guess what [wikipedia.org]? And those nice radar systems that you use all over the place - they were also invented in Europe [wikipedia.org]. I could go on, but I think you get my drift.
And while you might have invented the internet, the bit that most people know and (incorrectly) refer to as the internet was actually the result of the work of Tim Berners Lee [wikipedia.org].
You might own the infrastructure inside America, but the rest of the world has paid for - and owns - the infrastructure that they contribute. If the USA was disconnected from the internet, then the only content we would probably notice was no longer available would be a lot of porn. Yep, I'll give you that, you do create a lot of porn.
Just because some of the key infrastructure still resides in the USA doesn't make it your internet, nor could those elements not be reconstructed outside the USA.
So, realDonaldTrump, if you are going to be an idiot at least be a factually correct idiot.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @08:51AM (1 child)
"if you are going to be an idiot"
That is what he does here, and he does it well. #parody
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday April 15 2018, @09:02AM
I know, and he used to funny too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @10:02AM
Epic! *ROFL*
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @10:55AM
> So, realDonaldTrump, if you are going to be an idiot at least be a factually correct idiot.
Wouldn't that kind of defeat the entire point of that account's existence?
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @06:15PM
Well, since all of Europe's data has to go through Utah, it wouldn't be very difficult to kill their internet completely, and probably most of their phone service too!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by realDonaldTrump on Monday April 16 2018, @01:40AM
People don't read the articles. I read the articles sometimes. When I'm not too busy with documents. You must be very busy. Because the article isn't about jets or trains. And it isn't about the Tim Berners-Lee Internet, the websites. It's about the part that does the numbers & addresses. The ICANN DNS. Which used to be ours. America's. But my predecessors -- Bill Clinton, Bush Jr. & Obama -- did a number on us. They put Internet freedom at risk with the intent to cede control to international interests, including countries like China and Russia, which have a long track record of trying to impose online censorship. Congress needs to act, or Internet freedom will be lost for good, since there will be no way to make it great again once it is lost!!!!
(Score: 5, Informative) by janrinok on Sunday April 15 2018, @08:16AM (6 children)
Europe is not shutting anything down per se, but outside the USA there are usually some rules on what private information can be disclosed publicly and what must be protected. In Europe, there is new legislation shortly coming into force that protects an individuals private information. I own several domains but I do not like the fact that my name, home address, telephone number and other information is being made public without my consent. My telephone number is ex-directory but I still receive unwanted advertising, telephone sales calls et al because my contact details are there for everyone to see.
The outcome of this legislation is that, in Europe, Whois will be breaking the law by publicising my personal details and domain managers in Europe will be guilty of an offence if they disclose my information to Whois in the first place.
... and why are we letting them??
Because the rest of the world is not ruled by the USA. Your laws might be great for you, but we in Europe have our own laws. There is currently an outcry regarding the misuse of personal information by Facebook because US law places very weak and/or unenforceable restrictions on how it can be used. Your government is now beginning to catch on and are realising just what can be done with such information. Europe is ahead of the game in this regard. Whois can continues to operate but they will have to comply with European laws when they do so in Europe. Whois without the information is not worth a damn. They have had 2 years to prepare for this and they have only just realised what is about to happen.
(Score: 4, Informative) by TheRaven on Sunday April 15 2018, @09:28AM (3 children)
It isn't, unless you use a registrar that sucks. My domains are registered with Gandi.net (which provides a discount to FreeBSD developers, yay!) and the only bit of personal information in the WHOIS registry is my name. Everything else is Gandi's public contact information. Enabling this is a single checkbox in the configuration UI. My previous registrar (123reg) charged a fee for this service, which I was singularly unimpressed with.
sudo mod me up
(Score: 5, Touché) by fritsd on Sunday April 15 2018, @10:29AM (1 child)
That could be because Gandi is based in Paris, and France is in the EU.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 16 2018, @12:00AM
Tucows/Hover has been doing the "Name: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer XYZ" & "Contact: domain-name@contactprivacy.com" for a lot of years, if not forever. They have my data on their own DB, and even asked a couple of times to recheck. ICANN wants (wanted?) information to be correct and real owner be contactable, but doesn't require information to be public, redirection is (was?) fine for them (I got no news about changes). So it's puzzling that they say they can't do it, because it's the registrars task and choice.
So no, it's not about EU, it's about business that care about customers. Maybe you can find some of those in places like USA too (maybe not, I looked it up, and Godaddy announced months ago that they were masking things in the port 43 version, but still public in the captchaed web one... OTOH, maybe Godaddy assholinesh as always). OTOH, some ccTLD in Europe don't offer port 43 or just crap version, and force everyone into their web based service (with all the "great" things about modern web, accessibility and other crap, when you are just trying to report an abuse to the owner).
All this fuss sounds like companies are inept, and late (but that is included in inept), and prefer to throw everything in the air instead of getting the damn job done. How much does it cost to replace all public whois data with things like "customerXYZ@registrar"? Why can't ICANN tell registrars they have to comply with laws and wash their hands?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 16 2018, @05:10PM
namesilo.com has free whois privacy. fuck whois. It's just surveillance.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @05:00PM
It doesn't matter who "rules" the universe. I only want to see the technology developed to bypass/disable the the censorship, to ensure unhindered communications. That's all that matters. Then we don't have to argue about the law and who writes it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @07:51PM
They aren't. Believe me, they aren't.