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posted by janrinok on Tuesday April 24 2018, @07:49PM   Printer-friendly
from the not-sure-that-threats-will-work dept.

President Rouhani warns that White House failure to uphold Iran nuclear deal would prompt firm reaction from Tehran.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani has called on US President Donald Trump to uphold the 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and six world powers, or "face severe consequences". 

In a televised speech, Rouhani said the "Iranian government will react firmly" if the White House fails to "live up to their commitments" under the agreement. 

The warning comes weeks in advance of a May 12 deadline for Trump to renew the deal.

The US president has previously said he would scrap the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), which he has called the "worst deal in history", unless "a better option" is presented to him. 

[...] The landmark deal reached in Lausanne, Switzerland in April 2015 with China, Russia, France, Great Britain, Germany and the US offered Iran more than $110bn a year in sanctions relief and a return to the global economy in exchange for halting its drive for a nuclear weapon.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:20PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:20PM (#671342)

    Trump at least did business in numerous countries.

    Obama had ZERO experience.

    Bush Jr. had ZERO experience.

    Clinton had ZERO experience.

    Bush Sr.... OK, he had lots of experience. It didn't make him a great president.

    Reagan ran a border state, so that's something.

    Carter had ZERO experience.

    Considering people who didn't get elected, but got kind of close:

    Mitt Romney had experience outsourcing American jobs. Eh, it counts, but...

    Hillary Clinton had the wrong kind of experience, a series of fuck-ups and corrupt deals.

    Sarah Palin ran a border state, just as Reagan did.

    So after Bush Sr. we find a 3-way tie with Trump, Reagan, and Palin. Then it's a 4-way tie with no experience, and finally a couple people whose "experience" is not an asset.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by tangomargarine on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:26PM (13 children)

    by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:26PM (#671347)

    Trump at least did business in numerous countries.

    Obama had ZERO experience.

    Bush Jr. had ZERO experience.

    Clinton had ZERO experience.

    [...]

    Carter had ZERO experience.

    Yeah, they didn't have business experience because they were busy actually being qualified to be politicians. Unlike Mr. Trump.

    --
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    • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:33PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:33PM (#671353)

      Ahem. They had ZERO experience with foreign policy.

      We had a peanut farmer, submariner, and non-border governor. We had a lawyer and non-border governor. We had an air force reserve pilot and governor. We had a "community organizer" (sounds like "unemployed") and short-term senator.

      Career politicians are disconnected from the reality of participating in our economy. They are thus not qualified for the jobs they hold, unlike President Trump.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:58PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:58PM (#671367)

        ...and short-term senator

        You managed to leave out Professor of Constitutional Law.
        ...and a lot of good that experience did him when it came to administering civil liberties while he had the top gig. 8-(

        It's true he didn't have any hands-on foreign policy experience and that showed with his choice of a warmonger Secretary of State (Killery).

        Slick Willie's Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was another warmonger.
        There must be something in the Clinton family's drinking water that makes them so murderous (dropping bombs on children).

        -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @11:16PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @11:16PM (#671411)

          So, there you go. Not Angels, as the OP said.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 25 2018, @12:23AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 25 2018, @12:23AM (#671434)

            ...and to no small degree, intellect.

            Trump's cognitive abilities have always seemed to me to be average, at best.
            ...and Trumps knowledge base, as long-time Trump observer David Cay Johnston has noted, is extremely poor.

            I'm thinking about The Chief Executive's raw decision-making abilities.
            I would like the smartest, most knowledgeable person available to have the job.
            (I'd like to see Trump's scores on the Scholastic Aptitude Test and compare them to the others who have been mentioned.)

            ...and that's before we even get into Trump's criminal activities, his narcissistic personality, and his governing-by-stunt thing.
            I, and many others, can well imagine him starting a war in order to distract from an impeachment or indictment.

            -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday April 25 2018, @01:47AM (2 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 25 2018, @01:47AM (#671462) Journal

              I would like the smartest, most knowledgeable person available to have the job.

              Yes, because there is a proven correlation between intelligence and the virtues, including humanity, good will, compassion, charity, and so much more.

              Oh, wait. There really is no correlation.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 25 2018, @03:29AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 25 2018, @03:29AM (#671500)

                That would be the one who agrees with me on everything, obviously.
                Geeez, do I really have to spell out this stuff. 8-)

                -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 25 2018, @03:37AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 25 2018, @03:37AM (#671502)
      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday April 25 2018, @03:18PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday April 25 2018, @03:18PM (#671648)

        Ahem. They had ZERO experience with foreign policy.

        Ahem. Trump had ZERO experience with politics.

        In fact, one of his problems is that he has *too much* experience dealing with foreign powers (Russia).

        Seeing as Trump is busy pissing off the majority of world powers, I'm not sure how much he learned, either. But if you think economics are what matters, has he improved anything there either? Citation needed?

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday April 25 2018, @01:43AM (4 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 25 2018, @01:43AM (#671459) Journal

      being qualified to be politicians

      You almost sound as if you believe that to be a "good thing".

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 25 2018, @02:12AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 25 2018, @02:12AM (#671467)

        Yes, being qualified for the job is usually a "good thing". But if you so sincerely believe otherwise, the next time you need to go to a dentist, ask a plumber to do it instead, and tell us how it turns out.

        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday April 25 2018, @02:29AM (1 child)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 25 2018, @02:29AM (#671474) Journal

          Ya see, there's a problem here. "Politician" shouldn't be a career thing at all. That's a big part of what is wrong with our country today. We have a very small group of people who are firmly entrenched in Washington, driving this nation wherever it is that they want to go. career politicians and the two party system very nearly sum up all that is wrong with the US. Add in the dependency of the military-industrial complex on career politicians, and the two party system, and maybe you can see how big a problem it really is.

          This is one case in which I can agree with some of our youth. The old bastards need to be swept away, to make room for new faces, and new ideas. All those old congress critters can go straight to hell, for all I care. They are unwanted, and unneeded.

          Wasn't it Hillary who presumed to tell us that she was "qualified" to be president? ROFLMAO - despite her self-proclaimed qualifications, the broad never did anything right while she held the reigns of power. She sounds like corporate CEO's who believe they "deserve" huge bonuses, after having run their companies into the ground.

          • (Score: 3, Informative) by TheRaven on Wednesday April 25 2018, @09:30AM

            by TheRaven (270) on Wednesday April 25 2018, @09:30AM (#671563) Journal

            Ya see, there's a problem here. "Politician" shouldn't be a career thing at all.

            You know, this ought to be a lot more obvious to US citizens given that the job title for some of your most senior politicians is representative. Democracy begins to suffer when 'representative' morphs into 'leader'.

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      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday April 25 2018, @03:21PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday April 25 2018, @03:21PM (#671650)

        Well, there's a difference between knowing how to do the job, and Evil Overlord Hillary. That's why the election was so annoying, as the choices were a twit who (hopefully) wouldn't get anything done with all his arm-flapping, and a career politician who's in bed with everyone who would get too much stuff done that was probably 85% sleazy and evil (sleavil?).

        I voted third party. Too disgusted to vote D/R.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:31PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:31PM (#671351)

    Sarah Palin ran a border state, just as Reagan did.

    So after Bush Sr. we find a 3-way tie with Trump, Reagan, and Palin.

    Ah yes, the U.S. state that borders Russia. Great for foreign policy experience.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @09:39PM (#671358)

      Most are at zero. ("peanut farmer"? "community organizer"? Oh please...) A few have proven themselves bad at it.

      I did make one mistake. I need to promote Bush Jr. up a tad, given that Texas is a border state. It's thus a 4-way tie after Bush Sr.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @10:29PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 24 2018, @10:29PM (#671383)

      Hey, don't go forgetting its border with that place known for its unfriendliness.
      Y'know, Canada.

      the U.S. state that borders Russia

      Her statement "I can see Russia from my house" was priceless.
      N.B. The shortest distance between the Alaskan mainland and Russia is a separation of 55 miles of the Bering Strait.
      ...and her house wasn't anywhere near that.

      Now, there are some islands [google.com] that can be considered to reduce that distance.
      ...but she didn't live there either.

      -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 25 2018, @12:59AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 25 2018, @12:59AM (#671451)

        "I can see Russia from my house" was said by a Sarah Palin impersonator named Tina Fey on the comedy show Saturday Night Live.

        Sarah Palin was being mocked for daring to suggest that Russia remained a concern for the USA. How times change!!! Back then, democrats were appeasing Russia (remember Hillary with the Russian ambassador and that silly plastic reset button), but today democrats freak out over Russia. All through this time, republicans have maintained a steady level of concern, and the Russians really haven't changed.

        • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday April 25 2018, @12:52PM

          by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Wednesday April 25 2018, @12:52PM (#671603) Journal

          Correct. She actually said, "They're our next door neighbors. And you can actually see Russian from land here in Alaska" [youtube.com]. She was being mocked for her near total lack of foreign policy experience, and for responding with this to a line of questioning about why specifically being next to Russia would at all aid in understanding why they were taking certain political actions at the time. She really had no clue, diplomatically, so she threw those words out there to give the impression to the base that of course a strategically important but politically nil part of Russia was visible across the Bering Strait meant that she would have the ability as Vice President to have a qualified opinion about Georgian independence. My take on it is that Gibson had a significant point to make and he did make it somewhat that Palin was unqualified to take over in the even of succession issue. It wasn't that Palin couldn't rebut it, it's that she did it in such a ham-fisted way. Thought that is arguable. So others can decide, in fact, let's go directly to the ABC News Transcript of that interview [go.com] [bolding mine]:

          That is the change that people want and it was confirmed to me in these last couple of weeks of travel.

          GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.

          PALIN: Sure.

          GIBSON: Let's start, because we are near Russia, let's start with Russia and Georgia. The administration has said we've got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

          PALIN: First off, we're going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain's running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep...

          GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

          PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals.

          That's why we have to keep an eye on Russia. And, Charlie, you're in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They're very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.

          GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

          PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

          GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they're doing in Georgia?

          PALIN: Well, I'm giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia.

          We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We've learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

          GIBSON: Would you favor putting Georgia and Ukraine in NATO?

          PALIN: Ukraine, definitely, yes. Yes, and Georgia.

          GIBSON: Because Putin has said he would not tolerate NATO incursion into the Caucasus.

          PALIN: Well, you know, the Rose Revolution, the Orange Revolution, those actions have showed us that those democratic nations, I believe, deserve to be in NATO. Putin thinks otherwise. Obviously, he thinks otherwise, but...

          GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn't we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?

          PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help. But NATO, I think, should include Ukraine, definitely, at this point and I think that we need to -- especially with new leadership coming in on January 20, being sworn on, on either ticket, we have got to make sure that we strengthen our allies, our ties with each one of those NATO members.

          We have got to make sure that that is the group that can be counted upon to defend one another in a very dangerous world today.

          GIBSON: And you think it would be worth it to the United States, Georgia is worth it to the United States to go to war if Russia were to invade.

          PALIN: What I think is that smaller democratic countries that are invaded by a larger power is something for us to be vigilant against. We have got to be cognizant of what the consequences are if a larger power is able to take over smaller democratic countries. And we have got to be vigilant. We have got to show the support, in this case, for Georgia. The support that we can show is economic sanctions perhaps against Russia, if this is what it leads to.

          It doesn't have to lead to war and it doesn't have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.His mission, if it is to control energy supplies, also, coming from and through Russia, that's a dangerous position for our world to be in, if we were to allow that to happen.

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