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North Korea's Kim Jong-un crosses into South Korea
Kim Jong-un has become the first North Korean leader to set foot in South Korea by crossing the military line that has divided the peninsula since the end of the Korean War in 1953. In a moment rich with symbolism and pomp, South Korean leader Moon Jae-in and Mr Kim shook hands at the border. Mr Kim said he hoped for "frank" discussion in a warm opening exchange.
Just months ago North Korean rhetoric was warlike, but now they may discuss a peace treaty and nuclear weapons. Much of what the summit will focus on has been agreed in advance, but many analysts remain deeply sceptical about the North's apparent enthusiasm for engagement.
Also at The Guardian (live) and Reuters:
During their private meeting, Kim told Moon he came to the summit to end the history of conflict and joked he was sorry for keeping Moon up with his late night missile tests, a South Korean official said.
North Korea's nuclear site collapse may be reason Kim Jong Un ceased bomb tests, scientists say
North Korea's nuclear test site has collapsed after the region sustained damage from five nuclear blast trials, Chinese scientists said Wednesday — leading many to believe it may be the reason why Kim Jong Un suddenly announced the rogue regime would freeze its nuclear and missile tests.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27 2018, @05:45AM (18 children)
Y'all thought Trump was going to start a nuclear war, especially when he started off 2018 with a tweet about having a working button to nuke North Korea. He knew what he was doing. It just looks foolish because your own understanding is lower and because you are blinded by hate.
Enjoy the history of the interaction, with a couple bonus photos of the leaders meeting:
http://www.macon.com/news/nation-world/article209944564.html [macon.com]
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27 2018, @06:01AM (2 children)
INB4 "IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP!!!" Oh wait, the summary beat me to it. :-(
(Score: 3, Touché) by takyon on Friday April 27 2018, @06:05AM (1 child)
Sure it does. Trump submitted the article.
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27 2018, @07:23AM
I heard there is statistically significant evidence from GWAS studies that trump voting is genetically determined rather than a choice. Secret gene editing trials are currently underway in mice to see if they can knock out the "trump gene" (znf711). https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/gene/ZNF711 [nih.gov]
If true, this could mean discriminating against trump voters is, and has been, illegal.
(Score: 3, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Friday April 27 2018, @07:22AM
Thank you for your beautiful support! People tell me all the time, "we love you, President Trump, you're doing an amazing job!" It's what I live for. Trust me, I will never start a nuclear war. Unless it's in the interest of the American people. But I was very serious when I wrote about my Nuclear Button. It's the best. So many people say President Putin's is terrific, mine is better than his. He may have more missiles, but mine work better. And they work much better than Chairman Kim's. Also, I have many, many more than he does. And I'm upgrading them amazingly. Very smart folks working on making my nuclear arsenal PERFECTO. He exploded maybe 1 H-bomb. My Generals say probably not "H," probably "boosted." And "boosted" is nothing special, that one's very easy. We INVENTED H-bombs. We tested so many. And we have so many. More than enough to take care of Chairman Kim and his friends. We can take care of them very well, believe me. If they want a fight, I'll fight back. And it will be devastating, the likes of which this world has NEVER seen!!!!
Let me tell you, I'm disappointed in Chairman Kim. About his test site. He tried to trick me, he thought he could trick me. He didn't trick me. Obviously he didn't, my Generals told me all along his I said his offer was big progress. I said it was big, I was being nice, it's not that big. No more "nice." I'm doing "tough" & "smart." I'm a tremendous actor. And I'm bringing some very tough & smart folks. I've got Mike Pompeo, my brand new Secretary of State (congrats Mike!). I've got John Bolton. And the Swedish ambassador. We're going to meet. We're going to talk. It's gonna be great. But VERY FAIR to America. And no more tricks!
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27 2018, @07:45AM (1 child)
> because you are blinded by hate.
I'm not really getting the "hate" vibe from most of my fellow lefties and other never-Trumpers. It's more of a "blinded by very low opinion". I still think I'm right, BTW. Every now and then he'll do or say something decent, or even insightful, but it's so rare it looks more like blind chance :-(
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27 2018, @04:47PM
Kind of depressing that blind chance and an insane man got us closer to peace in 2018 than any of the rational men in the past fifty years.
Even if you don't want to give credit to Trump, we would not be where we are today with North Korea if Hillary had been elected.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27 2018, @08:11AM (5 children)
trump didn't make this happen.
kim did, because now everyone knows he's serious and credible when it comes to getting nukes.
therefore he can get the deal he wants.
(Score: 5, Funny) by TheRaven on Friday April 27 2018, @11:42AM (1 child)
sudo mod me up
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27 2018, @03:56PM
This is Rule of Acquisition #76: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27 2018, @01:05PM (2 children)
Kim didn't get North Korea nukes, Clinton did.
Also, it is beyond hilarious how you will twist reality because "Trump!"
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday April 27 2018, @03:10PM (1 child)
Wait, which Clinton are we blaming this on? Hill or Billary?
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday April 27 2018, @03:41PM
I think you missed it. It's obviously Hillbillary.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 5, Interesting) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday April 27 2018, @12:59PM (3 children)
No, he still has no clue. [google.com] Really. No, really. [nbcnews.com] You're seeing it as rhetoric. What if it isn't? [nymag.com] What dice are you willing to roll?
Yes, he has the temperament and personality that can get us into a shooting war, or worse. He wants to disengage from Syria, then turns right around and fires missiles at them. He threatens about the nuclear button and then sure he'll negotiate.
No, that's not particularly a good thing. [gq-magazine.co.uk]
Yes, the two sides are meeting.
No, that doesn't mean they're going to reach agreement on nuclear dismantlement.
If Trump has an overall plan, let him lay it out. Otherwise I'll just continue believing, as the evidence has clearly shown, that he doesn't have a clue and is making all this stuff up from his gut as his impulses strike him to do so. And keep on making what preparations I can for when he does actually push that button as he's made clear he can do.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Sulla on Friday April 27 2018, @04:50PM
So he struck Syria and gets attacked for going against his desired policy, on the other hand if he had not struck he would have been called a treasoner for working for Putin and being weak on Russia.
Trump derangement syndrome and this Russia investigation is keeping us from disengaging worldwide. Neocons/Democrats are 100% to blame for any increase in engagement in Syria and the middle east in the past two years, congrats on being the new war party Democrats!
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27 2018, @06:48PM (1 child)
Trump wins, and not because he let's dumb-asses like you goad him into revealing his hand.
If you followed the events you would know rough framework of his plan, he got Xi to agree on total disarmament, and Xi put screws on Kimmy to come to the table. Kimmy was scared Xi would try to depose him, because for all his shit-talk his regime would last about a day if China wanted him gone. He had his brother killed to try to prevent what he thought was the most likely way China would get rid of him, wants to get ahead of the thumbscrews-Xi, and thinks if he does he can win concessions from Trump. Trump already expected this, and will give him "concessions" that he was always prepared to give to get the deal done. Most likely he will move US troops around Asian-Pacific, and swapping land forces with Naval forces to maintain balance vs China and cut costs.
Yes Kimmy's nuke tunnel collapsed, but he is not keen on making a new one because for all he knows Trump would stop it (He doesn't fuck around). In the end just because it suits Kim to make a deal now, it doesn't mean it's not good for everyone. Reunification will not happen in Kim's lifetime, but there could be trade and there could be peace.
(Score: 1) by tftp on Friday April 27 2018, @08:16PM
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday April 27 2018, @03:07PM
Hey, it's not even May yet. Give it some time.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27 2018, @03:37PM
As far as the credit-for-meeting, in my opinion it's about the circumstances. Sanctions can starve people already of borderline health such that it WAS seen as heartless by the world. Plus, China doesn't want refugees flooding in. But NK's recent WMD successes and threats change the sanction pressure and realities enough that Kim realizes his country is now more likely to be starved to death. The collapsed testing site also highlights the problems and resources necessary to maintain such systems. Therefore, he's more open to negotiations than before.