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posted by janrinok on Saturday April 28 2018, @07:23PM   Printer-friendly
from the he-said-she-said dept.

From CNN reporting:

The National Rifle Association is setting aside years of documents related to its interactions with a Kremlin-linked banker, as the gun-rights group appears to be bracing for a possible investigation, according to sources familiar with the situation.

The NRA has faced fresh scrutiny from congressional investigators about its finances and ties to Alexander Torshin, one of the 17 prominent Russian government officials the US Treasury Department recently slapped with sanctions. The gun-rights group has said it is reexamining its relationship with Torshin, who is a lifetime NRA member, in the wake of the sanctions.

The renewed attention has highlighted the close-knit if sometimes uneasy alliance between top NRA officials and Torshin -- a relationship that ensnared members of Trump's team during the presidential campaign, inviting further congressional scrutiny.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by black6host on Saturday April 28 2018, @08:58PM (8 children)

    by black6host (3827) on Saturday April 28 2018, @08:58PM (#673123) Journal

    Russia a hostile state? Ok, I'll buy that. NRA a terrorist organization? Nah, I don't think so. You've had the kool-aid that has completely changed the meaning of "terrorist organization". Hell, I bet some people consider the PTA to be so... But you don't see the NRA promoting violence. Just because some members do does not reflect on the NRA. I bet a lot of those folks have AAA memberships as well. Does that make the AAA a "terrorist organization"?

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:20PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:20PM (#673133)

    Seems in keeping with the values of today, terrorist is now the catch all for any undesirable activity that isn't directly supported by a nation state.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @10:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @10:05PM (#673144)

      Seems in keeping with the values of today, terrorist is now the catch all for any undesirable activity that isn't directly supported by a nation state.

      You forgot to add "when such activities are committed by a person of color."

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:23PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:23PM (#673134)

    Maybe they want to pretend they are 'smart' and hate on the 'alt-right' organizations. I realized around the year 2000 all of the 'news' is manufactured. All of it. The current 'narrative' is to get rid of guns. A manufactured thing to basically erode public trust in their enemy's.

    Basically one of the tenants of Marxism and the Saul Alinsky school of thought is to attack the organizations/people that support your 'enemies'. That is the methods being used here.

    Pretty much the ACLU defends the first. The NRA defends the second. I do not always agree with them but they serve a purpose.

    Want another eye opening thing to see? Watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6bSsaVL6gA [youtube.com]

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:37PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:37PM (#673138)

      trust in their enemy's.

      Their enemy's what? Please, finish the sentence?

      Basically one of the tenants of Marxism and the Saul Alinsky school of thought is to attack the organizations/people that support your 'enemies'.

      Tenets? Didn't you mean tentaments? Why is "enemies" in scare quotes? Are you Russian, or just a normal functionally illiterate lifetime NRA member?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @11:40PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @11:40PM (#673174)

        trust in their enemy's.

        Their enemy's what? Please, finish the sentence?

        Their enemy's enemy, which would make them your friend. Unless they are also your enemy, which would make them your enemy. But if you are both of their enemys then that would make them friends, which would cancel out them being your enemy's enemy.

        Now that I look at that, maybe that AC was right to just leave it at "enemy's".

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by jmorris on Saturday April 28 2018, @10:51PM (1 child)

      by jmorris (4844) on Saturday April 28 2018, @10:51PM (#673161)

      Not exactly. It is worse than even you are assuming.

      I champion civil liberty as the best of the non-violent means of building the power on which workers’ rule must be based. If I aid the reactionaries to get free speech now and then, if I go outside the class struggle to fight against censorship, it is only because those liberties help to create a more hospitable atmosphere for working class liberties.
      […]
      When that power of the working class is once achieved, as it has been only in the Soviet Union, I am for maintaining it by any means whatever. Dictatorship is the obvious means in a world of enemies, at home and abroad.
        -- Roger Nash Baldwin (Founder of the ACLU)

      ACLU was born corrupted. The NRA though predates the Communists and has been very consistent in being the oldest civil rights organization in continuous operation.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @06:46AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @06:46AM (#673269)

        Re-writing history, again, jmorris? Who is paying you to do this? Could it be, Ruskies? The NRA started as an organization promoting marksmanship, so that the US would have enough cannon fodder to throw into things like world wars. Having your ass conscripted and attached to the butt of a rifle is kind of the opposite of civil rights. But, nice try for your Russian Bear masters! Although, in light of your pathetic and total failure in this regard, I would be wary of door knobs, and other places neurological weapons could be placed. No accuracy need for those!

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by VLM on Sunday April 29 2018, @02:59PM

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 29 2018, @02:59PM (#673406)

    I bet a lot of those folks have AAA memberships as well. Does that make the AAA a "terrorist organization"?

    SPLC is a better example. Or the ADL. Although there isn't much difference.