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According to a new analysis,
[...] In this paper, simple one-dimensional dynamical models are uniquely applied to study in detail the fatal shot and the motion of the President's head observed in the film. Using known parameters from the crime scene, explicit force calculations are carried out for determining the projectile's retardation during tissue passage along with the resulting transfer of momentum and kinetic energy (KE). The computed instantaneous KE transfer within the soft tissue is found to be consistent with the formation of a temporary cavity associated with the observed explosion of the head, and subsequent quantitative examination of this phenomenon reveals two delayed forces at play in the backward motion of the President following impact. It is therefore found that the observed motions of President Kennedy in the film are physically consistent with a high-speed projectile impact from the rear of the motorcade, these resulting from an instantaneous forward impulse force, followed by delayed rearward recoil and neuromuscular forces.
janrinok: Be prepared for some detailed mathematical proofs, but well within the abilities of our community, and some interesting deductions.
(Score: 4, Disagree) by janrinok on Sunday April 29 2018, @05:01AM (18 children)
You are asking how the eds should recognise a 'good' story. Let me explain.
Firstly, many of the stories today have been found by bots. They have been edited but essentially they have been submitted by a piece of software. Why do we do this? Because too few members of our community can be bothered to submit an 'interesting' story. You know, the kind of story that they want to read about, to discuss, that they personally find worth exchanging views on. It would help us greatly if the proportion of stories submitted by our community was much higher rather than just sitting back and criticising what actually appears on the front page. Your criticism is valid, but the cure rests partly in your own hands. We can only publish good stories if we have good stories to publish. What I find interesting is probably not what you find interesting, so go find a good story (or a dozen) and submit your findings.
Assuming that you are not being sarcastic in your comment, there are several ways that we can identify good stories. We can look at the number of comments and the discussion that a story initiates. This story isn't doing too badly in that regard compared with the rest of the day's stories. We can look at how many submissions on various topics we receive. I have partly covered that in the previous paragraph but if we use submission count as the main yardstick then Aristarchus would be filling the front page every day. So be careful what you ask for. The alt-right seems to be a popular topic - but only for one particular submitter. But when Ari submits a story that meets the site's requirements then it gets treated like all of the others. And if we use a 'Firehose' solution then it is easy for a small number of people (or bots) to game the system and shut down discussions that they disagree with. The way to disagree with something is to discuss it and counter others points of view with well reasoned logical and debate - not to suppress all discussion on the subject.
Finally, everyone in our community is different. Not being an American, I found the JFK story interesting in that it (for me) challenges the hitherto accepted account of the assassination with a hypothesis that is backed up by mathematics and science rather than being an off-the-wall conspiracy theory. Maybe you have seen this too many times in the past but, being a European it is not a topic that is covered that often. The comments however, are even more interesting to me because they often make me think and look at alternative point's of view. And that, after all, is what this site is all about.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday April 29 2018, @05:04AM
(Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Sunday April 29 2018, @08:49AM (13 children)
But if you look at the comment count for posted FPFA (Front Page Fine Articles), aristarchus submissions are far better, on the whole. However, some eds do not like controversy that goes against their bubble. So there is that. The average that we usually have is rather pathetic, for a news aggregation site. The old site still does better, on average.
But thanks for acknowledging the inherent bias on this site! And I agree that more submissions by other Soylentils would be a good thing. The thing is, that when your average Soylentils does submit, and watches as bot submissions, or worse, submissions by the eds themselves, fill the accepted queue while their humble submission is rejected, well, after a while Soylentils stop submitting. It is happening. I would hope the eds take actions to reverse this trend, before it is too late.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday April 29 2018, @09:10AM (2 children)
Don't mistake many of the comments that follow you submissions with intelligent discussion. And, if it is statistics that you want, your submissions that are posted gather more 'Why do we publish this rubbish?' comments too.
And you do remember that the site's priority for source material is STEM? I'm not quite sure where you see the alt-right playing a role in much of that. You can, as I keep repeating, put such stories in your journal and bask in the millions of comments that those stories must garner. What you seek is a more public mouthpiece for your own political views. That is not the purpose of this site.
(Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Sunday April 29 2018, @09:51AM (1 child)
You mistake my aim sorely, Janrinok! I am merely protesting the suppression of stories on the alt-right, fomented by particular editors and TMB, as well you know. Stop the embargo, #freearistarchus, and see what happens. That would be my suggestion. If the experiment in free speech is too perilous, as in "the Gorge of Eternal Peril" level of perilousness, well, then we will know that this is the wrong news aggregation site for any but alt-righters, neo-nazis, and Ethanol_fueled. But at least we would know.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday April 29 2018, @10:56AM
You have free speech! You have been given a journal where you can publish whatever you wish and anyone can read them. We even list your journal posts on the front page so that those that are interested can see that you have posted something new. Surely, if we were suppressing your stories you wouldn't have a journal.
This is not an open news aggregation site - it is purposely and specifically concentrating on STEM topics. The occasional story on politics is supposed to be used for stories of a special interest to the majority of our community. We have published some of your stories and, if you ever find something new to say, we might do so again in the future.
(Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Sunday April 29 2018, @09:15AM (6 children)
Oh, and after having made this comment, I fully expect my current three submissions to be immediately and summarily rejected without notice in a fit of pique! It has happened many times before, I am used to it. But the point of the comment still stands.
(Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Sunday April 29 2018, @07:11PM (5 children)
Wow! Only one pending submission is denied! A moderate and measured reprisal! Time to go find some STEM Nazi alt-right stories, I guess.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @09:15PM (2 children)
You might find some legitimate STEM alt-right stories that are news. You might find some legitimate STEM Nazi stories, though they will be historical or fake-Nazi. You won't find Nazi alt-right anything.
We know what you are trying to do: the Big Lie.
You see that "Nazi" is the great evil. You want to slander your opponent, the alt-right. What better way could there be?
It's even a two-for-one deal, because pushing that idea might make somebody forget that the Nazi party, long extinct by the way, was socialist. They were only to the right of communism, which was indeed the popular alternative in 1930s Germany. Oh dear, you can't be having anything Nazi be associated with your current political leanings!
Oh, and now you'll drag out the No True Scotsman fallacy. You'll claim the Nazi party wasn't socialist. They sure as fuck were, just like Venezuela is. It's you. Own it.
Hey, let's check some of the platform:
Well gee, it looks like aristarchus is a Nazi.
(Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Monday April 30 2018, @12:45AM (1 child)
Sorry, but your knowledge of political history is at the alt-right level, as in everything you have said is an alternative to what is right. Amazing how easily some are taken in by Russian troll-farm agitprop! I bet you think Islam is a threat to the "West". I'll bet you think that blacks commit more crime than whites, because they are "black". I'll even bet you think that women are different than men, in areas like cognition, calculation, and rumination! Yep, another gun-loving, Schlitz-drinking, ammosexual, gamergating, wymen-hating, white-somethingist, complete and total looser, stupid enough to support a NY real estate developer, because he's "country" and "christian"! The stupid, it burns! Sorry I have nothing helpful to say to you, other than, "oh, noes, you're on to me!", and to insult you until you double and triple down and start doing stupid things like supporting Nazis.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday May 03 2018, @01:50AM
Whoops! Seems like I have triggered a mod-bombing by a Nazi lover! C'est la vie!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @11:07PM
The UK just killed a second toddler, starving the child to death.
http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/27/single-payer-health-care-denies-care-sick-children-like-alfie-evans/ [thefederalist.com]
It isn't a year past them killing Charlie Gard in a very similar situation.
In both cases, a socialized medicine system has a group of people decide that the child will die. (totally not a "death panel", right?)
In both cases, the parents are offered free treatment in other countries. (Charlie in the USA, and Alfie in Italy)
In both cases, the parents are prohibited from taking their children out of the hospital that has decided to kill.
Before Hitler started killing Jews, he killed people like Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans. Know your history. The disabled, both physically and mentally, were first to be killed.
To be clear, it isn't the "Nationalism" of the "National Socialist" (Nazi) party that causes this. It's the socialism. Socialism always leads to the killing of undesirables because they are a burden on the socialist system.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 02 2018, @03:28PM
We need some research about how far a Nazi can shove his cock down a Greek philosopher's throat. Get on it, Aristarchus!
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday April 29 2018, @01:00PM
I have submitted a few stories, and most have been accepted, but that's a level of effort above simply responding to the ones that appear, and... I don't always have something "good" to submit, so in that case I greatly prefer to remain silent on the story front, though rarely does that stop me from commenting!
Also, as submitter of stories, it seems that one is automatically targeted for criticism, often by those who clearly haven't read or understood the fine 50 word or less summary that I have given. As such, my criticism of the topic of "who/what shot JFK" is just following suit.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 02 2018, @03:24PM (1 child)
What we all want to know is, "Who is the cockbite who follows Aristarchus around, and mods up every single post he makes?"
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday May 02 2018, @04:24PM
Not one, but legion. Expect them. Just think of all the right-wing nut-job anti-intellectuals that follow aristarchus around modding him down! They are out numbered.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday April 29 2018, @12:53PM (2 children)
Or, you could feed your bots a blacklist of topics, starting with the tabloid staples...
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(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday April 29 2018, @06:08PM (1 child)
That would be a case of ignoring facts because you don't like the source. We often get useful news from sites that we wouldn't choose to use for all of our input. Some people dislike Al Jazeera but their access to Middle Eastern news sources is actually very good. Fox/CNN reporting also provides some good news if you can just separate the facts from the political bias and rhetoric. And hearing alternative viewpoints is what this site is all about. Often, it isn't so much about the stories that we choose to report but the community discussion that follows.
The sources that Arthur T Knackerbracket (bot) uses are the very same that SN scans daily for new stories (which can then be submitted using Exec or Mr Plow (bots)). The difference is how those bots work and how they provide stories for processing. Arthur can find several hundred stories a day during the week. The problem is that bots cannot tell a good story from a bad one so the sorting process becomes the major task rather than the search for the story per se. And we have to use bots because, frankly, there are insufficient stories being submitted by the community. We do have some very prolific submitters of good stories, but a good proportion of what we receive is either a poor match for this site's interests or requires an inordinate amount of time to edit and process. Every member of our community has a life away from the site and there is a limit to what can be achieved whether that be in submitting, editing or commenting on the stories that we use.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday April 29 2018, @09:45PM
Fifteen words and you missed, or misunderstood, one: topics.
I value input from Al Jazerra and RT, but... I do always appreciate being notified of the source - Fox, NPR and RT will each have their own spin of a given story.
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