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posted by janrinok on Thursday May 03 2018, @06:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the how-many-women-voted? dept.

Iowa approves one of strictest abortion bills in US

The US state of Iowa has approved one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country, banning most abortions once a foetal heartbeat is detected. Republican lawmakers, who control both chambers, passed the bill in back-to-back votes, sending it to the governor's desk to sign into law.

If [signed], the bill would ban most abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. Critics argue the bill makes having an abortion illegal before most women even realise they are pregnant.

[...] If [Governor Kim] Reynolds signs the bill into law, it will likely be challenged in court for possibly violating Roe v Wade, the US Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion in 1973. [...] Some Republican lawmakers welcomed the challenge. "I would love for the United States Supreme Court to look at this bill and have this as a vehicle to overturn Roe v. Wade," Republican Senator Jake Chapman said.

Also at NPR, Reuters, the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier, and The Hill:

Nineteen states adopted a total of 63 restrictions to the procedure in 2017, which is the highest number of state laws on the issue since 2013, according to the Guttmacher Institute. State legislatures have proposed 15 bills that would ban abortions after 20 weeks and 11 bills that would ban abortions if the sole reason is a genetic anomaly like Down syndrome.

Related: Ohio Bill Would Ban Abortion when a Prenatal Test is Positive for Down Syndrome
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  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by arcz on Thursday May 03 2018, @07:06PM (3 children)

    by arcz (4501) on Thursday May 03 2018, @07:06PM (#675234) Journal
    Though I concur with your conclusion (women should have a right to an abortion), your argument is invalid. "Law punishing murder should only be argued, voted on, and signed exclusively by murders or you're seeing the modern day equivalent of a Jim Crow law."
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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @07:13PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @07:13PM (#675245)

    Incorrect.

    Murder is an action, thereby a choice any human can make. Therefore, all humans are morally eligible to make law pertaining to it.

    Gender (actual chromosomes here, there are two and a few genetic outliers like XO and XXY) is not. Race is not.

    That's the difference. I picked the examples specifically and correctly.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:03PM (#675309)

      Murder is an action, thereby a choice any human can make.

      So is religion, yet we include it in all our civil rights statutes. Why is that? Shouldn't they only protect involuntary attributes? Like for instance, place of birth? Doesn't everyone have the basic right to live where they want? Don't we all have the same right to travel as freely around the globe as the effluence we spew into the air every day? All your borders are Jim Crow on steroids, and meth! Very selective you all are about which rights are really have.

    • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by linuxrocks123 on Friday May 04 2018, @02:58AM

      by linuxrocks123 (2557) on Friday May 04 2018, @02:58AM (#675457) Journal

      ...dumbest thing I've read today, and your particular dumb is spreading, so I'll respond.

      "Only X should make laws pertaining to X" leads to a number of absurd results, such as only Dreamers should make laws pertaining to Dreamers. The Dreamers didn't choose to be illegal immigrants -- that's the whole rationale for treating them with leniency -- but only the most frothing-at-the-mouth extremist would say they should be the sole arbiters of their status.

      How about "only men should decide child support laws". Bet you don't like that one at all, huh? I know, I know, women can be made to pay child support, too ... but it is as involuntary a situation as unintentionally becoming pregnant. Most of the members of that involuntary class will be men.

      You would argue a single woman would clearly be affected by not receiving child support. I agree ... but then men would also clearly be affected by being deprived the companionship of a future child containing half their genetic material. So it's a wash for the identity politics bullshit, then, right?

      Society as a whole has to decide what to about the Dreamers, and other illegal immigrants, and child support liability. Society as a whole also has to decide what to do about killing something that many people see as disturbingly close to a person.

      Some of these are hard questions, and people making your argument are trying to shut out voices that might have good ideas. Please stop.