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posted by janrinok on Thursday May 03 2018, @06:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the how-many-women-voted? dept.

Iowa approves one of strictest abortion bills in US

The US state of Iowa has approved one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country, banning most abortions once a foetal heartbeat is detected. Republican lawmakers, who control both chambers, passed the bill in back-to-back votes, sending it to the governor's desk to sign into law.

If [signed], the bill would ban most abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. Critics argue the bill makes having an abortion illegal before most women even realise they are pregnant.

[...] If [Governor Kim] Reynolds signs the bill into law, it will likely be challenged in court for possibly violating Roe v Wade, the US Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion in 1973. [...] Some Republican lawmakers welcomed the challenge. "I would love for the United States Supreme Court to look at this bill and have this as a vehicle to overturn Roe v. Wade," Republican Senator Jake Chapman said.

Also at NPR, Reuters, the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier, and The Hill:

Nineteen states adopted a total of 63 restrictions to the procedure in 2017, which is the highest number of state laws on the issue since 2013, according to the Guttmacher Institute. State legislatures have proposed 15 bills that would ban abortions after 20 weeks and 11 bills that would ban abortions if the sole reason is a genetic anomaly like Down syndrome.

Related: Ohio Bill Would Ban Abortion when a Prenatal Test is Positive for Down Syndrome
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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Thursday May 03 2018, @08:20PM (9 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday May 03 2018, @08:20PM (#675285) Journal

    Then you have people on the way far left, who say abortion, woman's prerogative. Even after the child has already been born!

    Damn, that's the most straw I've ever seen turned into a man before! Has Guinness checked that monster out for a record?

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  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday May 03 2018, @08:52PM (6 children)

    by Freeman (732) on Thursday May 03 2018, @08:52PM (#675300) Journal

    Please note, I was referencing what the far left and the far right believe regarding the abortion issue. You can plug your ears and say nananannana all you want. That doesn't mean it's not the truth.

    --
    Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:11PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:11PM (#675312)

      I was referencing what the far left and the far right believe

      Show me one place where the "far left" believes in this non-existent "post-birth abortion" you speak of. You're referencing what your tiny idiot mind thinks the far left and far right believe, not what they actually believe.

      That doesn't mean it's not the truth.

      You saying it doesn't mean it is the truth, either. Oh, and in case you missed it, it's not the truth. Next time you use that argument, use it on something that's actually true.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:20PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:20PM (#675318)

        I once ran into a mechanic who had an article pinned about Democrats killing children as they were born, turns out it is incredibly rare but necessary and I forget the medical reasons. Basically taking a one in a million tragic occurrence and making that seem like a common thing that only devil worshiping liberals do.

        Lots of bullshit flying around that people cling to.

        • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:32PM

          by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:32PM (#675325)

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intact_dilation_and_extraction [wikipedia.org]

          Fortunately it says it's incredibly rare, but I can understand how people would be disturbed by it. Although the description of the procedure is extremely clinical, it's still...bleargh.

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          "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:36PM (1 child)

        by Freeman (732) on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:36PM (#675329) Journal

        It seems that I probably heard about it when this mess was happening.
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/post/after-birth-abortion-can-they-be-serious/2012/03/03/gIQADgiOsR_blog.html?utm_term=.6dfc07327520 [washingtonpost.com]

        There's also this pole on debate.org that shows there are some who do believe it. Not that I would call debate.org an authoritative source.
        http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-a-woman-still-be-allowed-to-abort-at-6-months [debate.org]

        --
        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday May 04 2018, @02:14AM

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday May 04 2018, @02:14AM (#675437) Journal

          ‘After-birth abortion’: Can they be serious? (the first link)

          Saved you a click: "we never meant to suggest that after-birth abortion should become legal."

      • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:46PM

        Show me one place where the "far left" believes in this non-existent "post-birth abortion" you speak of. You're referencing what your tiny idiot mind thinks the far left and far right believe, not what they actually believe.

        It's all true. Those evil democrats, Matt Stone and Trey Parker have been advocating for this since 1998 [imdb.com].

        Every single democrat believes in murdering children, because they're "teh evilz"!

        That's why every single democrat watches South Park to find out what they should believe this week.

        Please. No one advocates child murder -- or murder in general, for that matter, except the hate peddlers who want to kill the jews, the muzzie rag-heads and the various darkies.

        tl;dr: GP is talking out of his ass and it smells that way too.

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        No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @08:52PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @08:52PM (#675301)

    That's not a straw man. It's a garden variety stupid argument made by a garden variety stupid person.

    Remember, always apply Hanlon's Razor before assuming malice.

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday May 04 2018, @01:53AM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday May 04 2018, @01:53AM (#675429) Journal

      That's not a straw man. It's a garden variety stupid argument made by a garden variety stupid person.

      It's the very definition of straw man. He's refuting an argument nobody has made. [wikipedia.org]

      Remember, always apply Hanlon's Razor before assuming malice.

      Malice isn't required for something to be fallacious.