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posted by janrinok on Thursday May 03 2018, @06:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the how-many-women-voted? dept.

Iowa approves one of strictest abortion bills in US

The US state of Iowa has approved one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country, banning most abortions once a foetal heartbeat is detected. Republican lawmakers, who control both chambers, passed the bill in back-to-back votes, sending it to the governor's desk to sign into law.

If [signed], the bill would ban most abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. Critics argue the bill makes having an abortion illegal before most women even realise they are pregnant.

[...] If [Governor Kim] Reynolds signs the bill into law, it will likely be challenged in court for possibly violating Roe v Wade, the US Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion in 1973. [...] Some Republican lawmakers welcomed the challenge. "I would love for the United States Supreme Court to look at this bill and have this as a vehicle to overturn Roe v. Wade," Republican Senator Jake Chapman said.

Also at NPR, Reuters, the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier, and The Hill:

Nineteen states adopted a total of 63 restrictions to the procedure in 2017, which is the highest number of state laws on the issue since 2013, according to the Guttmacher Institute. State legislatures have proposed 15 bills that would ban abortions after 20 weeks and 11 bills that would ban abortions if the sole reason is a genetic anomaly like Down syndrome.

Related: Ohio Bill Would Ban Abortion when a Prenatal Test is Positive for Down Syndrome
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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @10:02PM (17 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @10:02PM (#675350)

    Is there some kind of right to have sex without getting pregnant? Hint: there isn't.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @10:15PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @10:15PM (#675356)

    You are correct, there is no such right. However that doesn't seem to much matter to rapists, and given that 20%+ of women have been raped at some point in their lives you should probably check your bullshit.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @12:43AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @12:43AM (#675403)

      20%... Your laughable statistic suggests you are transgender twit.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @12:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @12:54AM (#675405)

        transgender twit

        Since there's nothing wrong with being transgender, let's focus on the twit part. Better to be a twit than a worthless piece of shit like yourself.

        Now, if you don't mind, please go play a nice game of hide and go fuck yourself. Thanks! :)

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @04:08AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @04:08AM (#675480)

        See thing is most rapes aren't the mugged in the street variety, most are a date that takes advantage and many women just bury it as a shameful event. I see what level of discourse you have, the "I only believe what is right, thus what is right is what I believe."

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:37AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:37AM (#675575)

        Approx 20% of the world is muslim so thats probably a minimum

    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday May 04 2018, @08:55AM (4 children)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 04 2018, @08:55AM (#675547) Journal

      given that 20%+ of women have been raped

      It is not a given - citation please from a credible source.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:41AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:41AM (#675576)
        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday May 04 2018, @05:23PM

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 04 2018, @05:23PM (#675748) Journal

          So the citation that you gave claims nearly 1 in 5 - which is a terrible state of affairs but is not 20%+. So the exaggeration of the original claim was for what reason? Why shouldn't the true figures be sufficient enough to make the argument?

          Another response to my question gave the following as a cite: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence [rainn.org] but that only goes as far as 1 in 6 women being raped. Now there is a 6% difference in those reports, so it seems to me that the figure might lie somewhere between the 2 values claimed. Again, this is an unacceptable figure of which any nation should be ashamed but even this figure would have been good enough to make the case. It does not require any fudging to make the argument more credible.

          It hardly gives me any faith in the arguments that are presented if the argument is made with distorted figures. It does suggest that someone has another agenda to push when I see inaccurate claims being made.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:53AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:53AM (#675581)
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @11:30AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @11:30AM (#675593)

          I feel sick after reading that

  • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday May 03 2018, @10:16PM (2 children)

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday May 03 2018, @10:16PM (#675357)

    Is there some kind of right to have sex without getting pregnant? Hint: there isn't.

    Care to explain further? I'm unsure what you're arguing. Are you saying that women get pregnant every time they have sex?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @02:10AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @02:10AM (#675434)

    There's also no right to reside in someone else's body against their will, even to keep yourself alive.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:55AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:55AM (#675582)

      Most guys pull out when theyre done but this 'must keep it in her to keep myself alive' is new
      some sort of movie plot perhaps?

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday May 04 2018, @03:46AM (1 child)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 04 2018, @03:46AM (#675472) Journal

    What if the mother did not volunteer to have sex?

    Is there some right to have sex even if she says "No"?

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