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posted by martyb on Friday May 04 2018, @08:50AM   Printer-friendly
from the Nice-Big-CoC dept.

Rafael Avila de Espindola, one of the top contributors to the LLVM compiler toolset, has cut ties with the open source project over what he perceives as code of conduct hypocrisy and support for ethnic favoritism. In a message posted to the LLVM mailing list, de Espindola said he was leaving immediately and cited changes in the community.

LLVM project founder, Chris Lattner responded; "I applaud Rafael for standing by his personal principles, this must have been a hard decision." Lattner also insisted that "it is critical to the long term health of the project that we preserve an inclusive community."


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  • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by realDonaldTrump on Friday May 04 2018, @11:27AM (13 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday May 04 2018, @11:27AM (#675590) Homepage Journal

    A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. I think sometimes a black may think they don't have an advantage or this and that. I've said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by bobthecimmerian on Friday May 04 2018, @11:47AM (12 children)

    by bobthecimmerian (6834) on Friday May 04 2018, @11:47AM (#675601)

    I know you're a consistent troll, but that's bullshit. In 2011 a university did a study with college student graduates, submitting their resumes to various businesses for job applications. On 50% of the resumes they had names like "Tom" and "Jane" and on 50% they had names like "Saahd" and "Shanequa". The traditional names got the overwhelming majority of callbacks and phone calls.

    The idea an educated black has a huge advantage is nonsense. Poverty levels among blacks in the US are still dramatically higher than among whites, as a percentage. There are just more poor white people because we're still the largest demographic by a big margin.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by takyon on Friday May 04 2018, @12:08PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday May 04 2018, @12:08PM (#675608) Journal

      http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/ [fortune.com]

      In 1989, [Donald Trump] told Bryant Gumbel in an interview, “A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market…if I was starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really do believe they have the actual advantage today.“ In fact, all the serious studies refuted that. However his statement did serve as a kind of shout-out to those who were ignorant about the racial dynamics in the U.S. economy.

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by unauthorized on Friday May 04 2018, @01:33PM (1 child)

      by unauthorized (3776) on Friday May 04 2018, @01:33PM (#675637)

      Did they also control for "foreigner effect" by testing historically European non-American names like Astrid or Jaroslaw?

      No? Right. Either the study is bullshit or you are disingenuously misrepresenting the conclusions.

      • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Monday May 07 2018, @12:34PM

        by TheRaven (270) on Monday May 07 2018, @12:34PM (#676621) Journal
        The original study had a number of flaws, most notably not controlling for socioeconomic index associated with names. Unfortunately, several follow-on studies by others have shown that there's a noticeable difference even when you do correctly control for these things.
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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @02:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @02:22PM (#675663)

      On 50% of the resumes they had names like "Tom" and "Jane" and on 50% they had names like "Saahd" and "Shanequa". The traditional names got the overwhelming majority of callbacks and phone calls.

      And yet American blacks have not yet received the message that dooming their children with stupid made up names that look like the leftover letters from a bad game of scrabble is poison to their long term success. It's almost like they don't want them to succeed.

      I once had a young black lady working for me that wanted to be called by her Anglicized name variant rather than the stupid version her mother gave her. I always felt bad for her because she tried so hard to "act white" but she was held back by her culture right down to the abusive, cheating, black boyfriend. She was a nice girl and a good worker.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by choose another one on Friday May 04 2018, @02:37PM (2 children)

      by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 04 2018, @02:37PM (#675669)

      > On 50% of the resumes they had names like "Tom" and "Jane"

      So all they proved is that name discrimination happens rather than racial discrimination, oh, and that they are idiots.

      Name discrimination isn't racism and besides, most places your name is a choice (unlike your skin), and you can change it from the one your parents lumbered you with if you want to. In fact it is my understanding that some of my own ancestors anglicised their names.

      Now, making the unwarranted assumption that people called Tom or Jane can't be black, _that_ might be racist, and is probably offensive to people like:
      http://www.blackpast.org/aah/mcallister-dr-jane-ellen-1899-1996 [blackpast.org]
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sowell [wikipedia.org]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @06:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @06:11PM (#675787)

        Wow, such self serving ignorance. You really want to pretend that it is simply name familiarity discrimination? We have words to describe people like you and they aren't nice.

      • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Friday May 04 2018, @08:02PM

        by Pino P (4721) on Friday May 04 2018, @08:02PM (#675828) Journal

        Name discrimination isn't racism and besides, most places your name is a choice (unlike your skin)

        That's true provided that you live in a common law country (Five Eyes, Ireland, and South Africa) or a country whose name change laws resemble common law (e.g. Norway), and you're an adult, and you haven't recently moved to a different region (state, province, etc.). Some jurisdictions set a minimum age for name change at 16, 18, or 19, and/or require having lived in the same region for three months.

        It's generally harder to change one's name in a civil law country, as these countries presume that a name change is to evade taxes or other debt. In some cases, you actually have to sue your city government.

        Source: "Name change" on Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]

    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday May 04 2018, @02:54PM

      by Arik (4543) on Friday May 04 2018, @02:54PM (#675679) Journal
      This is hilarious.

      Your argument depends on the unspoken assumption that *names* are an aspect of "race!"

      And I bet you don't even realize YOU are the racist.

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday May 04 2018, @05:22PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 04 2018, @05:22PM (#675747) Journal

      So, change your name to something more traditional. Or, at least use a "professional" name. I probably wouldn't call Shanequa. I certainly wouldn't call anyone whose name was obviously misspelled. And, yes, there are dozens of names on birth certificates that are obviously misspelled. If the parents didn't take their child seriously enough to learn how to spell some common name like "Samuel", or "Beverly", I can't believe the offspring is going to take life, or their job, seriously.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @08:52PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @08:52PM (#675843)

      First of all, if I saw a name like "Saahd", my assumption would be Arabic. But anyway...

      Those names tell me that you reject the highly productive culture of the USA and even western civilization. Your mom might be at fault, but you probably learned your culture from her and anyway you could have changed your embarrassing name.

      Black people can be OK. Ghetto people are not OK, even if they aren't black.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 05 2018, @08:24AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 05 2018, @08:24AM (#676020)

        That is exactly what I thought! This would not stop me adding the person to the interview list though. We have an unspoken quota for "minorities" who comprise 1/5 of the human race, occupy several of their own countries and who somehow need to be given jobs in our county because ...diversity? (Do I get cut a break if applying for a job in one of their x majority counties? After all, I would be a "minority" there)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:05PM (#675878)

      Duh... if the blacks had learned anything in their "education" then they would have changed their ghetto names and started using "Tom" and "Sue" instead. The workplace is no place for politics.