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Rafael Avila de Espindola, one of the top contributors to the LLVM compiler toolset, has cut ties with the open source project over what he perceives as code of conduct hypocrisy and support for ethnic favoritism. In a message posted to the LLVM mailing list, de Espindola said he was leaving immediately and cited changes in the community.
LLVM project founder, Chris Lattner responded; "I applaud Rafael for standing by his personal principles, this must have been a hard decision." Lattner also insisted that "it is critical to the long term health of the project that we preserve an inclusive community."
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Another good night not to sleep in a eucalyptus tree.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday May 04 2018, @05:07PM (7 children)
Perhaps you read TFA? If so, maybe you just missed the bit about, "When I joined llvm no one asked or cared "about my religion or political view."
Your post reminds me of the upskirt project. Every_single_thing related to the program was flagrantly sexist. So, uhhhhh - why in hell would any woman, or respectable man even consider joining such a project? I would have to presume that such people were hoping for a sado-masochist relationship if they joined. Not that there's any thing wrong with S&M, but if that was what the new member was seeking, then said member has no right to complain when the abuse is heaped upon him/her.
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Friday May 04 2018, @10:53PM (1 child)
> Perhaps you read TFA?
I was responding to GP who said something like "I don't care if the guy acts like an asshat, as long as their work is good". So if the work is good, but the guy is just vile, to the point where people don't want to work on the project, I think that is an issue. I was responding to the discussion, not the article.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Saturday May 05 2018, @01:14AM
How does he even have the opportunity to be so 'vile' if he's working on code? Where does he even find the time?
This is not about 'vile' people, it's about socially retarded technically gifted geeks being chased out of our last safe places by people who think their social skills entitle them to rule over us.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Saturday May 05 2018, @02:06AM (4 children)
What is, or was, the upskirt project?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 05 2018, @03:01AM (3 children)
Sorry I provided no references, I should have in this case. I just read your response, and I'm about to walk out the door. My first web search turned up nothing at all related to software. My second search found this - https://github.com/GerHobbelt/upskirt [github.com] I'm not absolutely certain that it's the same project, but I think it's related. I would have thought that whoever inherited the project would have at least changed the name.
There was a pretty major scandal some years back over this project. Everything, and I do mean everything, related to the project, had blatantly sexist names, references, the talk among developers was pretty disgusting - it was a major mess. That project epitomized the worst of women's legitimate complaints about male chauvinist pigs in programming, IT, tech, and STEM in general.
I suppose the next logical web search would use similar terms, but search "news" instead of "the web", then try narrowing down the time. Off the top of my head, this all happened between 2005 and 2010.
Sorry - gotta get out the door!
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday May 06 2018, @02:57AM (2 children)
So if I understand that link correctly, they made a Markdown parser and called it upskirt?
On this page, http://fossil.instinctive.eu/index.html [instinctive.eu] it appears that Natasha Kerensikova has taken over the project (or forked it) and called it soldout instead.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday May 06 2018, @03:16AM (1 child)
LOL - good one.
It wasn't just the name of the project, though. The crew who developed it were quite crude and vulgar on their forum, comments within the code, and elsewhere. Take any boy's locker room, remove all adult supervision, introduce a couple of juvenile delinquints to the mix, and that would be approximately how upskirt was run. Many men would be embarrassed, not to mention women.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday May 06 2018, @10:54PM
And it looks like it's in Debian under the names libsoldout-utils; libsoldout1, and libsoldout1-dev.
-- hendrik