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posted by mrpg on Saturday May 05 2018, @05:41PM   Printer-friendly
from the not-flat-or-round-it-is-a-line dept.

Interesting bit to be found at The Conversation:

Speakers recently flew in from around (or perhaps, across?) the earth for a three-day event held in Birmingham: the UK's first ever public Flat Earth Convention. It was well attended, and wasn't just three days of speeches and YouTube clips (though, granted, there was a lot of this). There was also a lot of team-building, networking, debating, workshops – and scientific experiments.

Yes, flat earthers do seem to place a lot of emphasis and priority on scientific methods and, in particular, on observable facts. The weekend in no small part revolved around discussing and debating science, with lots of time spent running, planning, and reporting on the latest set of flat earth experiments and models. Indeed, as one presenter noted early on, flat earthers try to "look for multiple, verifiable evidence" and advised attendees to "always do your own research and accept you might be wrong".

While flat earthers seem to trust and support scientific methods, what they don't trust is scientists, and the established relationships between "power" and "knowledge". This relationship between power and knowledge has long been theorised by sociologists. By exploring this relationship, we can begin to understand why there is a swelling resurgence of flat earthers.


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Interestingly enough, the author delves into philosophy, particularly the work of Michel Foucault, who, for those not familiar with him, traced the relations between knowledge and power, especially in The Archaeology of Knowledge.

In the 21st century, we are witnessing another important shift in both power and knowledge due to factors that include the increased public platforms afforded by social media. Knowledge is no longer centrally controlled and – as has been pointed out in the wake of Brexit – the age of the expert may be passing. Now, everybody has the power to create and share content. When Michael Gove, a leading proponent of Brexit, proclaimed: "I think the people of this country have had enough of experts", it would seem that he, in many ways, meant it.

Ah, that explains so much beyond Brexit! Alternative Knowledge!

And for those who will never read the entire article, bit of the take-away:

In many ways, a public meeting of flat earthers is a product and sign of our time; a reflection of our increasing distrust in scientific institutions, and the moves by power-holding institutions towards populism and emotions. In much the same way that Foucault reflected on what social outcasts could reveal about our social systems, there is a lot flat earthers can reveal to us about the current changing relationship between power and knowledge. And judging by the success of this UK event – and the large conventions planned in Canada and America this year – it seems the flat earth is going to be around for a while yet.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Saturday May 05 2018, @10:36PM (5 children)

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Saturday May 05 2018, @10:36PM (#676182) Homepage

    Yes, flat earthers do seem to place a lot of emphasis and priority on scientific methods and, in particular, on observable facts.

    Bollocks. The path of the Sun across the sky and its descent below the horizon are easily observable facts and completely destroy practically every single Flat Earth model.

    You can sum it all up as "The Earth is flat, and any observations that contradict this are part of a NASA/Illuminati/Stonecutter conspiracy."

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 06 2018, @12:21AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 06 2018, @12:21AM (#676201)
  • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday May 06 2018, @06:07AM (1 child)

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday May 06 2018, @06:07AM (#676272) Journal

    Indeed, to prove that the Earth is round, all you need it a sundial, something to measure angles, some transportation with distance measurement (e.g. a car with an odometer), and a little bit of geometry.

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    • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Monday May 07 2018, @09:18AM

      by deimtee (3272) on Monday May 07 2018, @09:18AM (#676594) Journal

      If you are thinking of Eratosthenes, he didn't prove Earth was round, he assumed that it was round (and sunlight was effectively parallel) and calculated its diameter.
      Given the measurements he made, if he had assumed the Earth was flat he would have calculated how high the Sun was.

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  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday May 07 2018, @09:07AM

    One of the things that most annoys me about when spherical-earthers argue against idiot anything-elsers, is that they adopt the utterly *useless* terminology "the horizon". There is no *the* horizon. Every point on and above the surface has its own unique horizon. That they're all different (in particular how they are different at different altitudes) is one of the simplest demonstrations of the non-flatness of earth. If you have access to a tall building with a lift, you can even see the sun set twice, which is impossible and inexplicable in a flat-earth model.
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