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posted by mrpg on Saturday May 05 2018, @05:41PM   Printer-friendly
from the not-flat-or-round-it-is-a-line dept.

Interesting bit to be found at The Conversation:

Speakers recently flew in from around (or perhaps, across?) the earth for a three-day event held in Birmingham: the UK's first ever public Flat Earth Convention. It was well attended, and wasn't just three days of speeches and YouTube clips (though, granted, there was a lot of this). There was also a lot of team-building, networking, debating, workshops – and scientific experiments.

Yes, flat earthers do seem to place a lot of emphasis and priority on scientific methods and, in particular, on observable facts. The weekend in no small part revolved around discussing and debating science, with lots of time spent running, planning, and reporting on the latest set of flat earth experiments and models. Indeed, as one presenter noted early on, flat earthers try to "look for multiple, verifiable evidence" and advised attendees to "always do your own research and accept you might be wrong".

While flat earthers seem to trust and support scientific methods, what they don't trust is scientists, and the established relationships between "power" and "knowledge". This relationship between power and knowledge has long been theorised by sociologists. By exploring this relationship, we can begin to understand why there is a swelling resurgence of flat earthers.


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Interestingly enough, the author delves into philosophy, particularly the work of Michel Foucault, who, for those not familiar with him, traced the relations between knowledge and power, especially in The Archaeology of Knowledge.

In the 21st century, we are witnessing another important shift in both power and knowledge due to factors that include the increased public platforms afforded by social media. Knowledge is no longer centrally controlled and – as has been pointed out in the wake of Brexit – the age of the expert may be passing. Now, everybody has the power to create and share content. When Michael Gove, a leading proponent of Brexit, proclaimed: "I think the people of this country have had enough of experts", it would seem that he, in many ways, meant it.

Ah, that explains so much beyond Brexit! Alternative Knowledge!

And for those who will never read the entire article, bit of the take-away:

In many ways, a public meeting of flat earthers is a product and sign of our time; a reflection of our increasing distrust in scientific institutions, and the moves by power-holding institutions towards populism and emotions. In much the same way that Foucault reflected on what social outcasts could reveal about our social systems, there is a lot flat earthers can reveal to us about the current changing relationship between power and knowledge. And judging by the success of this UK event – and the large conventions planned in Canada and America this year – it seems the flat earth is going to be around for a while yet.

 
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  • (Score: 1) by suburbanitemediocrity on Sunday May 06 2018, @03:37AM (4 children)

    by suburbanitemediocrity (6844) on Sunday May 06 2018, @03:37AM (#676246)

    Explain with mathematics why pendulums rotate at the theoretically derived rate or STFU.

  • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 06 2018, @08:26AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 06 2018, @08:26AM (#676299)

    The standard calculations already assume the earth is flat:

    Consider a pendulum consisting of a compact mass $m$ suspended from a light cable of length $l$ in such a manner that the pendulum is free to oscillate in any plane whose normal is parallel to the Earth's surface.

    http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/336k/Newtonhtml/node59.html [utexas.edu]

    How can you have a plane parallel to the Earth's surface if the surface isn't flat?

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday May 07 2018, @08:57AM (1 child)

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Monday May 07 2018, @08:57AM (#676587) Homepage
      In the same way that you can have a point on a curved surface. On a smooth surface (technically "C^1"), there is a plane parallel to the surface at every point. Because we assume the planet is convex, and therefore normals diverge (outwards), and the pendulum is suspended at precicely one point, one such plane exists.
      --
      Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 07 2018, @01:40PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 07 2018, @01:40PM (#676635)

        I think you missed it. The point is whether you would need to make a different assumption if the earth was flat. The answer is no, the derivation works for both.

  • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Sunday May 06 2018, @09:49AM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday May 06 2018, @09:49AM (#676308) Journal

    Ah! Finally someone brings up Foucault's Pendulum [amazon.com]. Different "Foucault", however. Same Pendulum.