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posted by janrinok on Thursday May 10 2018, @03:24AM   Printer-friendly
from the dumb-reasons-for-status-quo dept.

Reason and the WaPost as well as many other sites are still rolling on the floor laughing at the assertion made by Chad Larner, the director of Maron County's K-9 Training Academy.

In a bid to protest legalization, the Illinois police have threatened to kill their dogs if marijuana is legalized. This could mean euthanizing hundreds of dogs trained to sniff out marijuana and other illegal substances.

Chad Larner claims:

Chad Larner, dismissed the idea of retraining dogs, saying it would amount to "extreme abuse" to change their mindset. K-9s are rewarded for successfully alerting to the presence of narcotics, and they continue to train regularly with their handlers for a suggested minimum of 16 hours a month.

[...] Because many K-9s are trained not to be social so their work won't be affected, Larner said a number of dogs would likely have to be euthanized.

While at the same time claiming the dogs are trained for many roles:

There are about 275 certified narcotic detection K-9s in Illinois, Larner said. Most of the dogs are dual-purpose, meaning they are trained to find drugs and to track and apprehend suspects and missing persons.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 10 2018, @06:29AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 10 2018, @06:29AM (#677764)

    if dog is an asshole, owner/handler probably is too.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 10 2018, @02:17PM (6 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 10 2018, @02:17PM (#677864) Journal

    Just drop the word "probably". Need examples?

    I grew up in a different era than most of you. Around me, there were dogs that "just don't like niggers". Seriously, if a black person came within sniffing, or hearing, or seeing distance, the dog would go off. The dogs were alright if assholes like myself taunted them, but a black person came around, it went wild.

    Of course, it takes little wit or imagination to realize that the dogs were TRAINED to attack black people. The dog hated blacks, because the owner hated blacks. Simple as that.

    A dog that is trained by an asshole is going to be an asshole dog.

    Without specific training, dogs mostly don't care what kind of person you are, what is in your pockets (unless it smells edible), your race, gender, or any other damned thing. At most, a dog may fear you because you are a stranger. Unless you are an asshole, you can lure the dog to you for a smell, and a pat, even if he is fearful.

    Dogs simply don't share mankind's motivations for being assholes.

    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by VLM on Thursday May 10 2018, @03:29PM (3 children)

      by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 10 2018, @03:29PM (#677914)

      Of course, it takes little wit or imagination to realize that the dogs were TRAINED to attack black people. The dog hated blacks, because the owner hated blacks. Simple as that.

      So I secretly want to fuck the postal delivery lady because the family dog humps her leg; I donno man, I almost give that a pass but its a little far fetched that an animal that barely understands when I'm shouting and broadcasting infinite brainwaves to "heel" appears to stupid yet secretly leads a life of psychoanalysis of my romantic desires.

      I think it a little more likely that after the 50th time a black dude tries to steal the kids bicycle, the dog just kinda growls at all black people on sight.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 10 2018, @03:56PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 10 2018, @03:56PM (#677942)

        Die in a fire you racist piece of shit.

        • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by VLM on Thursday May 10 2018, @08:19PM

          by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 10 2018, @08:19PM (#678090)

          I'm sorry a white guy stole your bike, geez...

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 10 2018, @06:01PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 10 2018, @06:01PM (#678027) Journal

        I can't possibly explain why you want to fuck the mail lady. I can't explain why you keep it a secret. Nor can I explain why you're telling us about your sexual fantasies. I might have better luck with the dog - he's honest enough to act on his desires. If he can't eat it, fuck it. If he can't fuck it, then piss on it. That is perfectly natural for a dog.

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 10 2018, @05:01PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 10 2018, @05:01PM (#677995)

      sure, some of the time(maybe), but many times the dogs have not been "trained" anything. there are various reasons a dog might react to a negroid with aggression. one time a guy (black) came walking around a corner on a sidewalk and my dog at the time growled at his leg the whole time he passed us. also, the guy didn't react to this except to keep sliding by. i thought that was strange later.

      my dog was very "people friendly" and had never acted like that towards anyone. i was also very calm and not threatened by this guy because of my mood and he was smaller than me, not obviously irritated towards me, and i'm not scared of blacks in general, having played sports & been friends with them in the past. I also didn't see him until he came around the corner but was not startled either because it wasn't abrupt. i was very surprised by her reaction and thought about why she did that. obviously, this guy was concealing his mood towards me and she picked it up. i can see subtle signs of his mood now, but at the time i hadn't noticed. many dogs also develop fears/aggression towards black dogs or use color to differentiate/form prejudices. ask a dog fighter, they'll tell you. the possibility that they would develop opinions about all blacks from just a few bad interactions or none at all (genetic memory) is real. blacks also might smell different and maybe the difference is too much for the dog to understand as enough like their master and family to accept as safe. a sufficiently dark person may look and smell like a big monster to a dog. IOW, it may not be poor whitey's fault their dog doesn't like black people.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 10 2018, @07:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 10 2018, @07:22PM (#678066)

        Smells are a big thing. Cocoa butter, marijuana, and tobacco smoke might be foreign smells to your dog. Dogs don't have the greatest eyesight, but they have a keen sense of smell and aversion to otherness. If they can't smell the "normal" things because they are masked by another scent, there could be a bad reaction. I've met many dogs that don't like people wearing baseball caps though - could be sending false body-language signals. I think runaway has the right of this for the most part, dogs can easily tell when the owner has fear or hostility because those things are communicated through pheromones that our noses have lost the ability to detect.