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posted by Fnord666 on Monday May 14 2018, @01:13PM   Printer-friendly
from the tilting-at-windmills dept.

Famed hardware hacker Bunnie Huang announces his newest project and goes into detail about how trouble from the DMCA was the impetus. He comments that unchecked power to license freedom of expression should not be trusted to corporate interests. The project, NeTV2, is being crowdfunded.

I'd like to share a project I'm working on that could have an impact on your future freedoms in the digital age. It's an open video development board I call NeTV2.

It's related to a lawsuit I've filed with the help of the EFF against the US government to reform Section 1201 of the DMCA. Currently, Section 1201 imbues media cartels with nearly unchecked power to prevent us from innovating and expressing ourselves, thus restricting our right to free speech.

At Boing Boing : Innovation should be legal; that's why I'm launching NeTV2


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @01:53PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @01:53PM (#679564)

    GNU GPL.

    Yeah. That's right. A tweak to legalese gave you a free software movement so influential that your corporate overlords embraced Linux which is now installed in billions and billions of devices worldwide.

    Legalese changed the world.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @02:16PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @02:16PM (#679571)

    I disagree.

    I don't think it had anything to do with the GPL.

    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday May 15 2018, @12:03AM

      by sjames (2882) on Tuesday May 15 2018, @12:03AM (#679828) Journal

      You're welcom to present your case, however:

      Linux wasn't the only openly licensed OS out there, not even the only Unix like one. But it (the one under GPL) is the one that took over the server and a big chunk of the embedded space.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @02:47PM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @02:47PM (#679578)

    Long before the GPL, people were sharing code. Knuth famously released his groundbreaking, advanced typesetting suite in 1978.

    Stallman just tried to force this sharing by writing it into copyright law.

    The BSDs (and the Apache-licensed software) have been enormously influential, and form the core and growing userspace of the operating system developed by the largest computing corporation in world history: Apple, a corporation that still makes headlines by releasing its work as open-source software.

    Indeed, the GPL has never been well tested in the court system, which is the only place where legalese can be actually reified as enforceable law. It's usefulness is more convention than reality, proving that FOSS is more cultural than legal or technical.

    People like sharing their stuff; they want others to support their work. People like getting stuff for free. People want to fix bugs and scratch their own itches. The implication is clear: Open-source software is a natural consequence of this Universe.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @05:36PM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @05:36PM (#679659)

      Stallman just tried to force this sharing by writing it into copyright law.

      How terrible that you can't take Free Software and make it proprietary. What a travesty this is!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @05:39PM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @05:39PM (#679661)

        That's true Freedom: Voluntary Association.

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @06:17PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @06:17PM (#679692)

          Incorrect. True freedom is being able to do whatever, thus slavery is a result of "true freedom" and it just happens that the slaves were not able to prevent the masters from enslaving them. They are free to revolt and break free, and the masters are free to kill them.

          This "true freedom" idea is really just anarchy so you should drop the high minded idealism. GPL/Apache/BSD are all examples of GOOD freedom where people are able to create software and apply the license they prefer. That is voluntary association, and if someone says you can't make proprietary software out of their freely available software then tough nuggets. While you're working on your ideologies try imagining a world where capitalism isn't the end-all be-all where everyone needs to bow down to the almighty "business".

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @07:24PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @07:24PM (#679729)

            So, your definition is bullshit.

            You've been hoist by your own petard; your argument is a straw man.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 15 2018, @12:21AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 15 2018, @12:21AM (#679839)

              Yes welcome to why you're ideology is so fundamentally flawed. Amazing that you think it implicates me. If only we were all saints who would never violate the well being of one another!

              At least we can get some amusement tossing virtual vegetables at you!

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 15 2018, @02:25PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 15 2018, @02:25PM (#680046)

                What about "straw man" don't you get?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @07:46PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @07:46PM (#679737)

          oh, stfu! noone forces you to use gpl'd software. there are plenty of mac-using sellouts pushing Slaveware As A Service apps leeched from bsd licensed shit. you can join your fellow whores.

        • (Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday May 15 2018, @12:06AM (1 child)

          by sjames (2882) on Tuesday May 15 2018, @12:06AM (#679829) Journal

          Free association is alive and well with GPL. Nobody forces you to use it as part of your project.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 15 2018, @02:38PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 15 2018, @02:38PM (#680051)

            Both the GPL and Apache operate under free association. It's just that the GPL's set of free associations is smaller than that of Apache's.

            Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]:

            The Apache License is permissive in that it does not require a derivative work of the software, or modifications to the original, to be distributed using the same license (unlike copyleft licenses – see comparison)[…] The Apache Software Foundation and the Free Software Foundation agree that the Apache License 2.0 is a free software license, compatible with version 3 of the GNU General Public License (GPL), meaning that code under GPL version 3 and Apache License 2.0 can be combined, as long as the resulting software is licensed under the GPL version 3.

    • (Score: 2) by Adamsjas on Monday May 14 2018, @05:42PM (1 child)

      by Adamsjas (4507) on Monday May 14 2018, @05:42PM (#679662)

      QUOTE: Indeed, the GPL has never been well tested in the court system

      Hasn't it won every test it was subject to? In many countries?
      Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought it had.

      When people stop contesting an issue, because the lose every case, isn't that a definition of "well tested"?
      If not, what do you think is missing?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @06:17PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @06:17PM (#679693)

        On just 13 May 2017: [theregister.co.uk]

        For now, GNU GPL is an enforceable contract, says US federal judge

        A question mark over whether the GNU GPL – the widely used free-software license – is enforceable as a contract may have been resolved by a US federal judge…

        The judge concluded that the GPL constitutes a contract, even though the FSF's long-held position is apparently that it is not a contract. In the judge's decision, there is talk of how other copyright cases

        Also, such a case is subject to appeal, and nothing related to copyleft case law has ever made its way to the Supreme Court.

        Furthermore, as the U.S. dictates world policy, especially regarding copyrights and contracts, that strongly suggests that the GPL's standing the world is still not very secure.

        From what I know, there have been a number of settlements, but those are not judgments that form case law.