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posted by martyb on Thursday May 17 2018, @11:16AM   Printer-friendly
from the where-have-we-seen-this-before? dept.

North Korea warns it may cancel summit with Trump if it has to give up nukes

A senior North Korean official warned Wednesday that Pyongyang may cancel its summit meeting between Kim Jong Un and President Trump scheduled for June 12 in Singapore, if it is going to be pushed into giving up its nuclear arsenal.

If the Trump administration pressures Pyongyang to unilaterally abandon its nuclear weapons, North Korea would have to reconsider the summit, Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye Gwan said in a statement carried by the official KCNA news agency.

[...] The news came hours after the North canceled a high-level meeting with South Korean officials that was scheduled for Wednesday, citing a joint military exercise as the reason. In its earlier statement, KCNA claimed that the U.S. and South Korea's joint air drill, which began on Friday, was "a bid to make a preemptive airstrike at the DPRK and win the air."

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by takyon on Thursday May 17 2018, @02:26PM (8 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday May 17 2018, @02:26PM (#680725) Journal

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-15/north-korea-suspends-talks-with-south-over-u-s-military-drills [bloomberg.com]

    Analysts noted the statement from the state-run Korean Central News Agency wasn’t signed by Kim or the military, and wasn’t likely to lead to a cancellation of the summit. Kim has pledged to publicly dismantle a nuclear test site next week and said he had no need for nuclear weapons if the U.S. ended its “hostile policies.”

    “Kim really wants this summit,” said David Kang, director of the Korean Studies Institute at the University of Southern California. “The whole process has been going so smoothly since January, I would be more surprised if there wasn’t a reminder that Kim Jong Un and North Korea have a lot of cards to play.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/opinions/north-korea-testing-trump-opinion-ghitis/index.html [cnn.com]

    Kim is testing Trump. He is trying to do precisely what his father and grandfather before him managed to pull off: extract concessions, economic and political gains, while making small concessions or promises they later failed to keep.

    Pyongyang's sudden indignation at this week's US-South Korea exercises, known as "Max Thunder," is a sham. The annual exercises are aimed at maintaining military coordination between the United States and its ally, to remain ready in case of a North Korean attack. After all, North Korea has attacked in the past.

    Pyongyang knew Max Thunder was coming. In fact, last March, shortly after visiting Pyongyang, the South Korean national security adviser said in a statement that "[Kim] understands that the routine joint military exercises between the Republic of Korea and the United States must continue. And he expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump as soon as possible."

    Kim is trying to find out just how much Trump is willing to do to prevent the collapse of the summit.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/north-korea-threatens-cancel-trump-summit.html [nymag.com]

    Various Trump aides, including Bolton and Pompeo, have repeatedly said that that what they want from the summit is “complete verifiable irreversible denuclearization of North Korea.” Of course, Pyongyang would love it if they could move the goal posts before the meeting, making the U.S. back off on this demand.

    They may be hoping that since Trump prematurely painted himself as the president who resolved the North Korea situation, he’s so desperate for a successful summit that he’ll give up on full denuclearization. It wouldn’t make any sense for Trump to cave over this relatively mild threat, but maybe North Korea will luck out again. They probably didn’t expect Trump to agree to their summit offer in the first place.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by c0lo on Thursday May 17 2018, @03:52PM (7 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 17 2018, @03:52PM (#680755) Journal

    - Trump will score nothing on NK - business as usual, except that now NK is a nuclear state. With a behemoth as a neighbour.

    - Trump will score very little if at all in Iran. Reason? China will buy Iran's oil on petro-yuan [oilprice.com]. Perhaps will even own Venezuela's petrol industry [businessinsider.com].

    - US policy in relation with Russia only makes Russia more self-reliant [rt.com]

    - Trump managed to irritate most of the trade partners by shaking the tariff boat

    Result: US influence in world's politics will dwindle. Perhaps is better this way, who knows?

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    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday May 17 2018, @04:45PM (5 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday May 17 2018, @04:45PM (#680770)

      > Result: US influence in world's politics will dwindle. Perhaps is better this way, who knows?

      Pax Americana has been good for most of those not on the wrong side of the occasional flare-up. Far from perfect, but compared to the regular full-scale turf wars that preceded Pax Nuclearis, it's been good that most advanced countries haven't had to send their children to die for childish reasons since the end of decolonization and Vietnam.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday May 17 2018, @06:14PM (3 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday May 17 2018, @06:14PM (#680810) Journal

        Pax Americana has been good for most of those not on the wrong side of the occasional flare-up.

        We've been at constant war for the last 25 years. Hell, we're still at war with North Korea, technically.

        When exactly did this "Pax Americana" occur?

        • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Thursday May 17 2018, @07:35PM (2 children)

          by Sulla (5173) on Thursday May 17 2018, @07:35PM (#680851) Journal

          What global power wasn't involved in some sort of war their entire reign? China still doesn't think their civil war is over as Taiwan has not been reclaimed, Tibet is still being kept down, and they are doing colonialism in Africa. Pretty clear all that Russia did.

          The above poster was not saying the US is perfect, we just happen to be the best option of all of the current options of global powers. Russia had the power to help NK turn into SK if they had wanted, the same for Venezuela, same for various other states. Russia did not do anything to build up any of those it supported except for Iran, but I would propose that Iran is great enough that they are able to help themselves. The US in its time did great work in its time, SK, former soviet block, Japan, Vietnam. I figure you will bitch about Vietnam, but Vietnam didn't work hard to get a weapons deal from China to put five million troops on their border with the US.

          I guess though I should look at the positive points of China being the primary superpower. We won't have to deal with Taiwanese people or their products anymore, at least not under the name of Taiwan. The Chinese will finally put down the communist revolution in Vietnam by making it part of China. The Indian's can't flaunt their ownership of Kashmir anymore as the Chinese will make it theirs. No longer do we have to deal with the threat of independent Mongolian hoards as they will be annexed. We can finally get back to opening up that hole in the Ozone to let the heat out, we are seeing that done already. The Chinese people will finally be free to eat all the toxic plastic rice that they want without the government having to censor foreign complaints. Without the international world having the ability to complain or scare them too much they can finish the genocide of the Tibetans and sterilize all their Muslims they have told are not aloud to publicly practice their religion or wear hijabs.

          Gonna live in some interesting times.

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          • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday May 17 2018, @07:46PM (1 child)

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday May 17 2018, @07:46PM (#680855) Journal

            What global power wasn't involved in some sort of war their entire reign?

            None that I'm aware of. They don't run around claiming a "Pax " though.

            That takes some serious newspeak to claim 25 years of constant war is peace. That's the goto example of Orwellian.

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 17 2018, @08:51PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 17 2018, @08:51PM (#680881)

              Pax never applied to the outside world, only that which falls inside the reach of the empire. Learn history before you complain...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @12:15AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @12:15AM (#680939)

        Yes, but you can't keep trading on prior generations' work. It's that whole "yeah, but if it weren't for us you'd be speaking Japanese" bollocks. But it wasn't anyone today that did that good work.
        Just look at the constant howls of derision that accompany any mention of China, Russia or Brasil. That attitude is not indicative of a good global leader. It's just bad attitude. Scary as it may be culturally, I think a change from 300 years of Anglo domination will be a good thing.
        Again, in the past the US was definitely "the best of the available alternatives" , no quarrel there, but a change of tack is needed, they"re too full of themselves now.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 17 2018, @07:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 17 2018, @07:16PM (#680845)

      your impertinent seethings does not an oracle make...