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Intel Discloses Plans to Spend $5 Billion on Fab 28 Expansion in Israel
Intel and two Israeli ministries this week announced that the chip giant plans to invest $5 billion in its Kiryat Gat fab complex – Fab 28 – through 2020. Under the plan, Intel is expected to buy various products from local suppliers and hire additional personnel. In return, Israel will provide the processor maker a tax rebate and a government grant. Furthermore, Intel will receive another grant if it upgrades its manufacturing in Israel further.
Under the terms of the investment plan, Intel will invest $5 billion (NIS 18 billion) in its Kiryat Gat ventures until 2020. The chip giant is expected to buy $838 million (NIS 3 billion) worth of local goods and add 250 people to its workforce, reports The Times of Israel citing the Finance Ministry. If the plan is approved by the Israeli authorities, Intel will get a 5% tax rebate till 2027, as well as a $195.5 million (NIS 700 million) government grant. Additionally, if Intel decides to "significantly upgrade" its fab "technologically", the company will get another $195.5 million grant.
Intel's first "10nm" CPU will be the i3-8121U, a dual-core part which will be featured in the Lenovo Ideapad 330. Due to low yields on the "10nm" process, a few Cannon Lake CPUs will be released in 2018 alongside "14nm" Whiskey Lake. Both microarchitectures are considered to be "8th-generation" (hence the '8' in "i3-8121U").
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(Score: 5, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Sunday May 20 2018, @05:25PM (2 children)
I'll leave the Israeli location to other threads. What I'm wondering is, what about fixing Spectre and Meltdown?
And, the numbers marketing has glommed onto in recent years are the die sizes, and they twist and stretch the truth as they usually do. What does 10nm really mean?
A problem I've had with my recent Intel purchases is overheating when pushing the graphics a little. I have a z8350 based stick computer and a Kaby Lake based Intel NUC, and they both overheat. The Kaby Lake overheats when using the 3d acceleration in the integrated graphics, and the z8350 overheats when playing video (mostly mp4), which I believe is decoded in hardware. The computer that hasn't overheated is the Skylake based Lenovo laptop.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 21 2018, @12:45AM (1 child)
The NUC is basically an industrial controller board shoved into a very small case. That case is not designed for more than 20-30W of heat expulsion.
You may want to look into a better heatsink and something like this https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=IC+Graphite [amazon.com] and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpphKzmDiJM [youtube.com]
I agree with what you are saying about the mitigations they are putting into the newer CPUs. If they are going to continue with the Kabylake CPU design they need to start pumping out in hardware mitigations. But they are being very obtuse in what they are doing.
I disagree with most of the people on this board. The Israeli group of Intel has been among the best CPU designers Intel has. But everyone wants to make everything political in some way. I was hoping for more along the lines of discussion you are doing.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday May 21 2018, @08:18PM
I'll vouch for that, using a NUC for vmware experimentation works as a portable transportable virtualization demo lab, but you can't run serious loads or even non-serious loads for more than a couple hours or it'll overheat and get wonky.
I could handle if it thermally throttled but what happens is more like the mere static load of vcenter overheats it until you get weird process failures and vcenter does not recover gracefully from stuff partially dying off. Heck depending on individual hardware vcenter barely finishes booting (30 minutes?) before it gets wonky and processes start crashing.
I was thinking of drilling some holes on the top with my milling machine to mount some nice loud bulky dusty standard case fans. Then I bought a SuperMicro miniserver (stereotypical E200-8D) and all my problems went away... Then I bought five more, which is a long irrelevant story. Note that the vmware world has intense groupthink so both the NUC and the SuperMicro are parts of the "vmware community groupthink". Note that the NUC tops out at 16 or 32 GB don't remember but the SuperMicro is just getting started at 64 GB. 16 is kind of a problem because vcenter is so sickeningly corn syrup fed obese its swapping on a 16GB box, there's no space for anything else.
Another "WTF" moment about vmware home lab community group think, is that NUC networking tops out at a single 1gigE but my E200 has dual gigs and dual 10gigs and a dedicated IPMI... I mean, you can't even do all-flash vsan with a NUC because it doesn't even have a single 10G much less the dual the E200 has. Another "WTF" moment is I'm not stealing 10G switches from my clients so if I'm paying $1500 for a freakin switch I don't care if the processor costs $200 or $800. vmotion on a 10G cluster is hilarious, you get used to it taking like ten seconds to vmotion something on 1G then on 10G the speedup makes you think the UI dropped the click or something, nah, its just that fast. And vsan over 10G is essentially as fast as local storage, 1G was noticeably slower.
I see dlink has a 10g switch thats only $75 or so per port. When I bought in about a year or two ago, switches were running well over $100/port.
A NUC should be a nice portable vmware demo box, but in practice its a huge PITA and lets you down quite often. A coworker of mine used to say "Fuck the NUC" and I can't disagree even though the NUC is a darling of vmware homelab groupthink. I'm sure its perfectly good for extremely light use, but its annoying that it blows up on real workloads.