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posted by janrinok on Monday May 21 2018, @08:11AM   Printer-friendly
from the richest-country-in-the-world dept.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/17/news/economy/us-middle-class-basics-study/index.html

"Nearly 51 million households don't earn enough to afford a monthly budget that includes housing, food, child care, health care, transportation and a cell phone, according to a study released Thursday by the United Way ALICE Project. That's 43% of households in the United States."

The figure includes the 16.1 million households living in poverty, as well as the 34.7 million families that the United Way has dubbed ALICE -- Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed. This group makes less than what's needed "to survive in the modern economy."

"Despite seemingly positive economic signs, the ALICE data shows that financial hardship is still a pervasive problem," said Stephanie Hoopes, the project's director.

California, New Mexico and Hawaii have the largest share of struggling families, at 49% each. North Dakota has the lowest at 32%.

Many of these folks are the nation's child care workers, home health aides, office assistants and store clerks, who work low-paying jobs and have little savings, the study noted. Some 66% of jobs in the US pay less than $20 an hour.

See also: https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2017/11/09/the-3-richest-americans-hold-more-wealth-than-bottom-50-of-country-study-finds/


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 21 2018, @01:49PM (10 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 21 2018, @01:49PM (#682159) Journal

    Equality is a good aim. However, feminism isn't aiming for equality. Who, precisely, decided that "housewife" or "professional homemaker", or "stay-at-home mom" is a "bad thing"?

    Things could have gone very differently. We could have taken a cue from that stupid "Mr. Mom" movie. More men could have opted to stay at home with the kids, while Mom brought home the bacon for Dad to cook. We could have just given Mom more respect, and allowed her to stay at home. Instead, we've pretty much forced women out of their traditional roles. and pushed them into the work force.

    Equality. Hell of a concept, isn't it? To bad that we don't actually practice it. I'll never forget Obama's speech: http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/video-obama-slams-stay-at-home-moms/ [wnd.com]

    “Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make,” Obama said. “So let’s make this happen: By the end of this decade, let’s enroll 6 million children in high-quality preschool, and let’s make sure that we are making America stronger.”

    In a response column published by the Christian Post, attorney Kristi Burton Brown gave voice to how many have been reacting on Facebook, YouTube and other channels.

    “I hope you misspoke, but let me tell you how this comes across to stay-at-home moms,” Brown replied to Obama. “You’re telling us that the money we earn is more important than our kids. You’re telling us that leaving the workplace to stay home isn’t a choice American moms should be making.”

    She continued, “As a stay-at-home mom myself, who is also an attorney, let me tell you that I want to choose my kids over my career. I honestly don’t care if missing two decades in the work force means that I’ll never make as much as a male attorney over the course of my lifetime. My kids – people – are much, much more important than my money – mere possessions. And my choice is just as valid and just as equal as the choices of the single mom who needs to find a quality daycare and a high performing school to put her children in.”

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday May 21 2018, @02:55PM (6 children)

    by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Monday May 21 2018, @02:55PM (#682201) Journal

    "Feminism" is not a monolithic entity, anymore than "conservatism" or "liberalism" or whatever. Yes, there are feminists who seem to view staying at home with kids as an inferior choice. But I also know many self-proclaimed "feminists" who think that's also a perfectly valid and valued choice. And by the way, it's not only feminists who make statements like Obama did there -- in fact, that position traditionally has more in line with bigoted careerist men.

    I'll never forget the day my pregnant wife showed up to a professional conference, and a senior member of her field took one look at her and said, "Ah, I see you've chosen to go a different way." That is, to a certain generation of men, it was assumed that a young woman who got pregnant before enough career success wasn't "serious" about the profession, regardless of whether she stayed home with the kids for several years or not. Similarly, a couple years later my wife admitted to me that she would never admit when she was taking a day off because our kid was sick... That would be viewed by some.colleagues as less committed or whatever, even though she was perfectly entitled to the personal days herself and never abused anything.

    That is the attitude that creates statements like Obama's. Losing a few years of experience in work may happen if a woman decides to take time off with her kids. And that's fair and expected if someone makes that choice. What rankles a lot of women is that devotion to kids or family -- even aside from being a full-time parent -- may be viewed as "insufficiently committed to your job." I've also personally heard the stereotyping: a male colleague who requested to move a meeting because he needed to leave early to deal with a sick kid was met with "oh, what a devoted father!" but a female colleague who had a similar request was met with grumbling..Even though this woman never created issues around her personal life and honestly worked more hours than average.

    And yes, I'll agree with you that some of the worst critics of women in those situations can be other careerist women -- often self-proclaimed "feminists" themselves. But that doesn't mean all women or all "feminists" agree with that attitude.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday May 21 2018, @04:31PM (5 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday May 21 2018, @04:31PM (#682251) Journal

      Don't waste your time. Runaway is an ancestral Red-piller, one of the ones who got old and fat and lazy (and somehow, MARRIED...*shudder*) before the bile and anger and disdain he has for women could make him truly dangerous, but he still thinks of us all as inherently confused and irrational.

      He doesn't actually understand any of the things you said, will not read your post to make the effort to anyway, and would rather sit there with his fingers in his ears going "Hurrr, bitches, amirite?" than change his thinking, such as it is, the smallest little bit.

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 21 2018, @11:07PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 21 2018, @11:07PM (#682434)

        Quit pretending that you know anything about the typical female experience.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday May 22 2018, @04:07AM (3 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday May 22 2018, @04:07AM (#682523) Journal

          How the fuck does that follow from what I just said? And I know a damn sight more than you do, on account of BEING ONE, if nothing else.

          --
          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 22 2018, @06:22PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 22 2018, @06:22PM (#682743)

            A real girl on SN? Hey babe wanna go get some corn flakes upstairs sometime?

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday May 22 2018, @06:49PM (1 child)

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday May 22 2018, @06:49PM (#682757) Journal

              First of all, I haven't been a "girl" for 14+ years. Second, cut it out. I'm already taken and no one but my girlfriend calls me "babe."

              --
              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 22 2018, @09:14PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 22 2018, @09:14PM (#682803)

                Sheesh fine then sweet cheeks :P No joke goes unpunished! I thought the "upstairs cornflakes" would sell it but then again you probably are imagining that I'm a TMB wannabe trying to mess with you. Just a joke I thought you'd chuckle at :(

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Monday May 21 2018, @02:56PM

    by PiMuNu (3823) on Monday May 21 2018, @02:56PM (#682202)

    I agree, more-or-less. I was just reacting to a post somewhere up the chain which didn't make this clear.

    > Who, precisely, decided that "housewife" or "professional homemaker", or "stay-at-home mom" is a "bad thing"?

    and just to be clear, neither is "house husband", or "stay-at-home dad"

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 21 2018, @11:10PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 21 2018, @11:10PM (#682439)

    Who, precisely, decided that "housewife" or "professional homemaker", or "stay-at-home mom" is a "bad thing"?

    I did, you male chauvanist pig! The dishes had better be washed by the time I get off work today, or there won't be no "domestic tranquity"!

                    Mrs. Runaway1963

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 21 2018, @11:27PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 21 2018, @11:27PM (#682448) Journal

      Ya stupid heifer, it's "domestic tranquility". And, you spelled your name wrong too.