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posted by martyb on Monday May 21 2018, @02:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the how-many-DeLoreans? dept.

According to a press release carried by Eurekalert

In the first rigorously peer-reviewed article quantifying Bitcoin's energy requirements, a Commentary appearing May 16 in the journal Joule, financial economist and blockchain specialist Alex de Vries uses a new methodology to pinpoint where Bitcoin's electric energy consumption is headed and how soon it might get there.

The abstract of the article says

The Bitcoin network can be estimated to consume at least 2.55 gigawatts of electricity currently, and potentially 7.67 gigawatts in the future, making it comparable with countries such as Ireland (3.1 gigawatts) and Austria (8.2 gigawatts). [...]

The author offers a caveat:

[...] all of the methods discussed assume rational agents. There may be various reasons for an agent to mine even when this isn't profitable, and in some cases costs may not play a role at all when machines and/or electricity are stolen or abused.

[Other] reasons for an agent to mine Bitcoin at a loss might include [...] being able to obtain Bitcoin completely anonymously, libertarian ideology [...] or speculative reasons.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by maxwell demon on Monday May 21 2018, @05:20PM (6 children)

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Monday May 21 2018, @05:20PM (#682278) Journal

    I'd guess the energy wasted due to DRM measures is much larger than the Bitcoin energy usage. Did anyone ever attempt to calculate how much energy is used up by that?

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  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday May 21 2018, @07:16PM (5 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday May 21 2018, @07:16PM (#682331)

    No, DRM wastes less actual energy - more legal discourse and advertising - the cost in peoples' time wasted for DRM is enormous, but the complete lack of actual security offered by DRM renders it quite energy efficient as compared to bitcoin. I think this was in the premise of the DMCA - they knew it would be broken, and so made the difficulty of breaking it a moot point.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 22 2018, @12:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 22 2018, @12:02AM (#682462)

      Are you calculating calorific energy into that?

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday May 22 2018, @06:06AM (3 children)

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday May 22 2018, @06:06AM (#682542) Journal

      DRM means that any time you play something protected with it, you have to do an otherwise unnecessary decryption step. You do so whenever you view a DVD or BluRay, whenever you watch a Netflix or Amazon Prime stream etc. That certainly consumes extra energy.

      It doesn't matter for energy consumption whether it is secure or not; all that matters is that extra computations have to be done.

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      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday May 22 2018, @11:56AM (2 children)

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday May 22 2018, @11:56AM (#682605)

        Compare the extra energy of a BluRay decryption to a BTC hashing node... the hashing node is 99.9+% burning energy for POW nonce computation - the BluRay might burn 0.1% of its total energy on decryption. Multiplied by a few hundred million BluRay players in operation it is significant, but it's not the core operation.

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        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday May 22 2018, @07:02PM (1 child)

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday May 22 2018, @07:02PM (#682761) Journal

          It doesn't matter if it is the core operation. What matters is what difference it makes in absolute terms.

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          • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday May 22 2018, @07:10PM

            by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday May 22 2018, @07:10PM (#682765)

            In absolute terms, the production, promotion and distribution of the media that is DRM protected is much larger, in absolute terms, than the sham of a crypto algorithm that is used. What is the fuel cost of a single live U2 concert? Not just for the band and stage crew to arrive, but for the concertgoers, the fractional costs of construction and maintenance costs of the stadium and supporting infrastructure including airports, aircraft, roads, vehicles, hotels, restaurants, etc.?

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