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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday May 23 2018, @06:47PM   Printer-friendly
from the your-computer-is-not-a-fast-PDP-11 dept.

Very interesting article at the IEEE ACM by David Chisnall.

In the wake of the recent Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities, it's worth spending some time looking at root causes. Both of these vulnerabilities involved processors speculatively executing instructions past some kind of access check and allowing the attacker to observe the results via a side channel. The features that led to these vulnerabilities, along with several others, were added to let C programmers continue to believe they were programming in a low-level language, when this hasn't been the case for decades.


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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:09PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:09PM (#683219)

    The article is convolving a language and where the end program is being deployed

    excuse me dude but this man is in iee and has publiched a paper in it
    just cause you did some jquery for ur sisters blog doesnt make u smart

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:15PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:15PM (#683223)

    Appeal to authority much? Even the smartest of us can be wrong.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by tangomargarine on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:43PM (8 children)

      by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:43PM (#683236)

      Yes but being an IEEE member has requirements. A random hobo online who can't even be bothered to make an account on this site shouting at me needs to show me some qualifications before I take his word over IEEE's.

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      "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by VLM on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:46PM (5 children)

        by VLM (445) on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:46PM (#683238)

        Wait what, I donno if this makes them look like idiots, or me, or I suppose both, but they spammed me mercilessly for decades to join. Its about the same as the ACM.

        Getting spam from IEEE is not exactly like having the Nobel Committee contact you.

        From memory I think they asked you to have a degree in EE, on the honor system.

        • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:52PM (3 children)

          by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:52PM (#683241)

          Either way, we're contrasting this with somebody who won't even make an account here on SoylentNews.

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          • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 24 2018, @03:45AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 24 2018, @03:45AM (#683401)

            Some of us have been anonymous (well, as much as possible) since USENET days, and we're not going to stop this side of the grave.

            • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday May 24 2018, @01:05PM

              by Wootery (2341) on Thursday May 24 2018, @01:05PM (#683527)

              You might have been doing it for decades, but that doesn't convince me that it makes any sense.

          • (Score: 2) by letssee on Thursday May 24 2018, @08:51AM

            by letssee (2537) on Thursday May 24 2018, @08:51AM (#683474)

            Which is the smart thing to do in this day & age.

            Which reminds me I really should shred *all* my online 'social' 'media' accounts.

        • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:53PM

          by urza9814 (3954) on Wednesday May 23 2018, @07:53PM (#683243) Journal

          From memory I think they asked you to have a degree in EE, on the honor system.

          I was asked to join many times when I was in college pursing a computer science degree. I think they were spamming the entire College of Engineering...

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday May 23 2018, @08:21PM

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday May 23 2018, @08:21PM (#683260) Homepage Journal

        And therefore you owe not just me US a sincere apology
        --- Michael David "Random Hobo" Crawford

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 23 2018, @09:33PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 23 2018, @09:33PM (#683292)

        So what's your argument? 'X is correct because Y says so' will now and forever be a fallacy, regardless of whether or not Y is a relevant authority figure. It's better to respond to the argument directly than to waste time with this nonsense.