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posted by martyb on Thursday May 24 2018, @08:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the the-price-is-right dept.

http://www.euronews.com/2018/05/21/free-public-transport-across-estonia

Estonia is set to implement free transport for its residents across much of the country as of July 1. The free fare zone will run 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/05/estonia-will-roll-out-free-public-transit-nationwide/560648/

Estonia is already a world leader in free public transit: In 2013, all public transit in its capital, Tallinn, became free to local residents (but not tourists or other visitors, even those from other parts of the country). The new national free-ride scheme will extend this model even further, making all state-run bus travel in rural municipalities free and extending cost-free transit out from the capital into other regions.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Thursday May 24 2018, @12:08PM (2 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 24 2018, @12:08PM (#683506) Journal

    These houses were designed for one car per bungalow.
    ...
    If there is anything I think we need here in Southern California, its free public transportation.

    Try higher raise (than a bungalow) buildings first. Until you increase the population density enough, you won't have comprehensive public transportation. Look at New York [wikipedia.org] density.
    Suburbian lifestyle has advantages (among them, not hearing through the wall your neighbours having sex; in suburbia you'll only hear the orgasm phase and then only if she's a screamer - grin).
    But you are paying for the suburbian life-style with longer distances to travel and more expensive/less coverage public transportation.

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 24 2018, @12:28PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 24 2018, @12:28PM (#683510)

    As I understand it, one of the main reasons the area I live in hasn't been flooded with high rises is that the city is nestled on top of Orange County's main water aquifer fed from the Santa Ana river when water is available in the early part of the year, and slowly fed from Prado dam upstream over the remainder of the year.

    In the event of intense seismic activity, this area may well experience soil liquifaction, that is: quicksand.

    There are not too many areas where one can get to some decent foundation... but stuff not too top-heavy is apt to not do much.

    Its like building on a mud pie. Even though you may seat to some bedrock down there, what do you do about all that water/soil sloshing underneath your foundation?

    So, this whole area seems constrained to not much height or really cheap expendable construction... just in case.

    Kinda hope it stays that way. I would hate to see us look like some of the "upper class" areas with all that high density and clogged eight lane streets we have further to the South of us. I just wish when I bought I could have afforded some property out East of us in the canyons.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Thursday May 24 2018, @12:39PM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 24 2018, @12:39PM (#683514) Journal

      In the event of intense seismic activity,

      Ah, you're right, I forgot about that.

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