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posted by Fnord666 on Monday May 28 2018, @11:58PM   Printer-friendly
from the nothing-of-value-was-lost dept.

This is the exact quote, folks. No games!

It's anything but a happy General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) day for several major U.S. news organizations as their websites are temporarily blocked in Europe as a new data privacy law goes into effect today.

Websites such as the LA Times, NY Daily News and Chicago Tribune are all temporarily blocked this morning, saying their content is unavailable in most European countries.

Anyone trying to access the sites, which also include those owned by Tronc and Lee Enterprises (examples include Orlando Sentinel [Tronc], Arizona Daily Sun and the St. Louis Dispatch [Lee Entperises]) see a message explaining that the website is working with European authorities on trying to get access back as quickly as possible.

Source: foxnews.com/tech/2018/05/25/various-us-news-websites-blocked-as-europe-s-gdpr-data-privacy-law-goes-into-effect.html


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @07:59AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @07:59AM (#685482)

    This is another onerous set of regulations exceeding jurisdiction. On what fucking planet would an EU citizen visiting a hotel or computer server outside the EU subject the foreign nationals providing these services to EU law?

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Demena on Tuesday May 29 2018, @08:33AM (4 children)

    by Demena (5637) on Tuesday May 29 2018, @08:33AM (#685490)

    Any sane planet. Please explain what is onerous about the obligations? Please explain how EU regulations enforced only with in EU borders is exceeding their remit? Your pitiful bleating fails to include, observe or use anything factual. You either (1) do not know or understand the GDPR of (2) you are a troll, paid or otherwise.

    Why should someone in he USA be able to access my personal data and cellphone at any time when I do not want them to? Why should someone in the US (or anywhere else) have the right to track my location anywhere in the world at any time just because I bought a bathroom scale from them? Any sane planet (or person) would welcome the GDPR.

    Freedom does not just mean freedom from government it means freedom from corporations too.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @09:46AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @09:46AM (#685507)

      Any sane planet. Please explain what is onerous about the obligations?

      Don't forget, even an IP address is "personal data" in the EU. [whitecase.com]

      Please explain how EU regulations enforced only with in EU borders is exceeding their remit?

      Your pitiful bleating fails to include, observe or use anything factual.

      I've quoted above from the EU's own document, which of my points were you claiming not to be factual?

      You either (1) do not know or understand the GDPR

      of (2) you are a troll, paid or otherwise.

      Ahh, the "everybody I disagree with is a Russian Troll" Troll.

      Why should someone in he USA be able to access my personal data and cellphone at any time when I do not want them to? Why should someone in the US (or anywhere else) have the right to track my location anywhere in the world at any time just because I bought a bathroom scale from them?

      They can't, unless you gave them permission. What kind of fucking moron has the GPS on their phone enabled if they're worried about being tracked?

      Any sane planet (or person) would welcome the GDPR.

      Sane people do not provide information that is not required. This includes refusing to complete online forms that require more information than reasonable or necessary.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Demena on Tuesday May 29 2018, @10:11AM (1 child)

        by Demena (5637) on Tuesday May 29 2018, @10:11AM (#685517)

        I see none of that as "onerous" You are objecting to power and responsibility being made equal and co-ordinate. Which is a requirement for any system that includes humans to function with justice and clarity.

        >Ahh, the "everybody I disagree with is a Russian Troll" Troll.

        Hardly, I have never said anything like that before. I said because I felt I had cause. Check past comments if you don't believe me.

        >They can't, unless you gave them permission. What kind of fucking moron has the GPS on their phone enabled if they're worried about being tracked?

        Someone who uses the GPS but does not necessarily want everyone else to have it for no functional reason.

        >Sane people do not provide information that is not required. This includes refusing to complete online forms that require more information than reasonable or necessary.

        Which can put you in the position I am in; purchased products that do not work because I won't click-through a scandalous license that I had no opportunity to see before I purchased the product. This the GDPR would prevent.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @10:44AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @10:44AM (#685525)

          I see none of that as "onerous" You are objecting to power and responsibility being made equal and co-ordinate. Which is a requirement for any system that includes humans to function with justice and clarity.

          The cost of compliance for small businesses is not onerous? It equalises nothing, the EU are subject to lobbying from big business where the cost of compliance is not an issue, some employees do not care about exposing personal data and the resulting fine can be factored in. It doesn't equalise, it centralises.

          Someone who uses the GPS but does not necessarily want everyone else to have it for no functional reason.

          I have location disabled but surely someone figured out by now that there should be a "just once" button when allowing a web site to access location data to autocomplete a form? It's a technical problem and not a legislative one.

          purchased products that do not work because I won't click-through a scandalous license that I had no opportunity to see before I purchased the product. This the GDPR would prevent.

          If (as a consumer) you were mis-sold a license as a product, ask for a refund. [europa.eu] If it's a consumer purchase from outside the EU, this is why you use a credit card. I'm unclear what this has to do with GDPR? Licensing after purchase was something I recall being a much discussed issue decades ago but AFAIK none of the software companies ever changed their business model.

      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday May 29 2018, @01:14PM

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 29 2018, @01:14PM (#685564) Journal

        Don't forget, even an IP address is "personal data" in the EU. [whitecase.com]

        Oh I note that you omitted to leave out the 'in certain circumstances' part. For example:

        In the present case, Mr Breyer's IP address was dynamically allocated (i.e., each time he connects to the network, his device is issued with a new IP address). Ordinarily, a dynamic IP address does not provide a website operator with sufficient information to directly identify an individual user, unless additional information is also available (e.g., the user logs into the website and provides information that enables the website operator to identify that user). The parties agreed that the IP address in question did not directly identify Mr Breyer.

        [...] The CJEU decided that a dynamic IP address will be personal data in the hands of a website operator if:

        • there is another party (such as an ISP) that can link the dynamic IP address to the identity of an individual; and
        • the website operator has a "legal means" of obtaining access to the information held by the ISP in order to identify the individual.

        If you collect personal data, or if you collect personal data but do not provide it with adequate protection from unauthorised disclosure then you are committing an offence. Otherwise the GDPR is not more a threat to your operations than a banana or cow pat.

        So if you go get a warrant and then ask the ISP to provide the information then you might be correct - but otherwise an IP address is NOT personally identifiable information.