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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday May 29 2018, @07:39AM   Printer-friendly
from the at-what-cost dept.

Yahoo Finance reports

Poverty-alleviation programs like food stamps (SNAP), Social Security, and other "welfare" programs are broadly effective at reducing poverty, a new study from University of Chicago researchers found.

The study, performed by researchers Bruce Meyer and Derek Wu, conducted a more comprehensive analysis than most studies, because it used administrative data from the programs' payment records, not just survey data of recipients from the Census Bureau.

[...] For the elderly, Wu said the research found that Social Security benefits "single-handedly slashes poverty by 75%." Social Security's overall effect on all poverty is also enormous, responsible for by far the largest poverty reduction among all these programs, the study said.


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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by ElizabethGreene on Tuesday May 29 2018, @03:42PM (3 children)

    by ElizabethGreene (6748) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 29 2018, @03:42PM (#685668) Journal

    The fundamental flaw with antipoverty programs including UBI is they grossly underestimate the ingenuity of poor people in making terrible decisions. My prediction is that UBI would be a huge boon to the tote-the-note car industry as people took their newfound income and immediately converted it to debt. This would leave them just as broke as they were before, but with a slightly nicer car to have repossessed.

    I'm in favor of a UBI replacement for the mishmash of different programs we have now, but I'm a clear-eyed pessimist in predicting there is zero chance it will meaningfully raise the standard of living of the poor in America today.

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  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday May 29 2018, @10:22PM

    by Bot (3902) on Tuesday May 29 2018, @10:22PM (#685954) Journal

    Maybe UBI should be distributed in form of food/clothes stamps. As for the smartphone, you can clean up three backyards a month and afford one.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @11:42PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @11:42PM (#685996)
  • (Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Wednesday May 30 2018, @04:36PM

    by ElizabethGreene (6748) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 30 2018, @04:36PM (#686337) Journal

    My apologies to the moderator, I hadn't intended the above as flamebait. I'm referring to a pair of specific incidents that demonstrate my point. I have two broke friends that qualify for SNAP. The first went > $15,000 into debt for a vehicle so they can Uber and make less than minimum wage. The second just traded a paid-for car for a newer one, going $6,000 in debt, because the old car needed tires and brakes.

    The cash value, the price you could buy the cars for from an individual seller, was $8,000 and $2,500 respectively. With history as a guide, there is a 50% chance that one of the two will be repossessed in under two years.

    Predatory "tote-the-note" lending is an epidemic in poor communities.