Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

SoylentNews is powered by your submissions, so send in your scoop. Only 17 submissions in the queue.
posted by janrinok on Tuesday May 29 2018, @03:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the recognition-for-the-right-reasons dept.

Submitted via IRC for Runaway1956

This year's Ms Geek Africa is Salissou Hassane Latifa, 21, from Niger. Her winning design is an app that helps communication between people caring for accident victims and the emergency services, and allows medical staff to advise on basic first aid before they arrive at the scene.

"Ms Geek has already changed the perception of what girls can do," says Esther Kunda of the Next Einstein Forum, a founding member of competition organiser Girls in ICT Rwanda.

The contest was set up as part of a nationwide effort to transform Rwanda from a small agricultural economy into an engine of technological innovation, with women and girls at the forefront of the revolution.

The government has set a target of achieving gender parity in the information communications technology sector by 2020, an ambitious goal in a worldwide industry notorious for its lack of diversity. But through educational campaigns, scholarships and mentorship programmes, Rwanda is determined to become a global leader for women in ICT.

"It's a good place to be a woman in tech right now," Kunda says of Rwanda.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/may/28/brilliance-overtakes-beauty-ms-geek-africa-spotlights-tech-genius-salissou-hassane-latifa


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Tuesday May 29 2018, @04:40PM (5 children)

    by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Tuesday May 29 2018, @04:40PM (#685708) Journal

    Society is perfectly happy to recognize that there is a mind/body duality for men:

    Your duality does not exist: Smart people don't have to be ugly, beautiful people don't have to be dumb. Those qualities are not correlated at all.

    Strong, beautiful men tend not to be all that intelligent (though Arnold was both).

    Smart, thinking men tend to be awkward or downright unattractive physically.

    Even that perception of a duality in the male sphere does not exist: Society tends to associate masculine good looks with competence and leadership, even when it's absent. That's how your muscleman actor got elected governor of California. Meanwhile that same society pressures women into complying with various weird standards for physical beauty while associating feminine good looks with superficiality and low intelligence. As usual, there is a double standard in play and if one dares to point that out or even (gasp) try to correct / compensate for it (by highlighting intelligent women via a contest for female inventors, for example) one is labelled a "SJW" or a feminazi or something.

    It's OK if your talent is being physically attractive

    Who said it wasn't? Although I'd hardly call it a "talent".

    it's not a shameful thing to be a beautiful woman

    Again, nobody is saying it's not.

    it's not a shameful thing if women are in general more physically impressive than mentally impressive.

    Is that a backhanded way of saying that men are smarter than women?

    There's no need to juxtapose "Beauty and Genius" like this article does.

    No, that's not what the article is doing. You are the one talking about an intelligence / beauty "duality". It's almost like you are deliberately getting it backwards.
    All the article is doing is pointing out that this contest defies societal norms by judging women on their mental prowess rather than how they look in swimwear.

    Starting Score:    1  point
    Moderation   +3  
       Insightful=2, Informative=1, Total=3
    Extra 'Insightful' Modifier   0  
    Karma-Bonus Modifier   +1  

    Total Score:   5  
  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @06:10PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @06:10PM (#685768)

    Those qualities are not correlated at all.

    Of course they are!

    An ugly man is only going to be able to get a good mate by being resourceful with his mind. Thus, ugly genes become correlated with smart genes—especially among men, because smart men will be more than happy to mate with a dumb trophy, whereas a smart woman has little use for a dumb trophy.

    Similarly, a physically attractive guy is going to get a woman's juices going even if he's really dumb; in fact, dumb women will succumb more easily to this superficial, hedonistic attraction, and the fact that they are both stupid will more readily lead to accidental pregnancies, thereby producing doubly stupid children. Thus, handsome genes become correlated with dumb genes.

    You can come up with other examples to prove the point.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday May 29 2018, @06:16PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 29 2018, @06:16PM (#685771) Journal

    Society tends to associate masculine good looks with competence and leadership, even when it's absent. That's how your muscleman actor got elected governor of California.

    The fact that he was competent enough to marry into the Kennedy clan [wikipedia.org] helped.

    --
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @06:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @06:25PM (#685779)

    it's not a shameful thing if women are in general more physically impressive than mentally impressive.

    Is that a backhanded way of saying that men are smarter than women?

    Why would you even think of this conclusion? Men weren't mentioned; that's a strictly intrawoman statement.

    I guess you fall more towards the physically impressive side of things?

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by unauthorized on Tuesday May 29 2018, @07:54PM (1 child)

    by unauthorized (3776) on Tuesday May 29 2018, @07:54PM (#685829)

    Your duality does not exist: Smart people don't have to be ugly, beautiful people don't have to be dumb. Those qualities are not correlated at all.

    Physical beauty and intelligence both take time and effort to cultivate, one cannot effectively maintain both to an optimal degree. You can compromise, but you cannot fully develop both to your natural capacity.

    Society tends to associate masculine good looks with competence and leadership

    No, it's not society, it's genetics. Every human culture from ancient civilizations to modern isolated tribal native communities share this universal trend - females find dominant males desirable. Note the word "trend", you who were about to go on a "but mah exceptions" rant.

    That's how your muscleman actor got elected governor of California.

    And not because he was previously popular or stood on a platform that appealed to people? Riiiight, of course. You are being bigoted. Arnold is an exception, rather than the rule. If being a muscleman contributes to getting into office, then you'd see a lot more musclemen in office, rather than being a unicorn among a bunch of frail old farts.

    Meanwhile that same society pressures women into complying with various weird standards for physical beauty while associating feminine good looks with superficiality and low intelligence.

    It's self-imposed. You don't have to, you CHOOSE to. You can dress conservatively and do just enough grooming to look presentable like most men do, and nobody would bat an eyelash.

    As usual, there is a double standard in play and if one dares to point that out or even (gasp) try to correct / compensate for it (by highlighting intelligent women via a contest for female inventors, for example) one is labelled a "SJW" or a feminazi or something.

    People are upset because the government has "quotas". Trying to compensate for unequal outcome that is due to natural causes (ie tech doesn't tend to appeal to women, so women tend not to go into tech when they can choose not to) is a legitimate form of state-run discrimination.

    You are labelled SJW because you willfully violate the principle of charity and refuse to address criticism with goodwill. How many "trolls" did you spot while reading the comments under that article? I bet there were a lot of trolls in there, just like under every article where a lot of people disagree with you. If the "trolls" tend to come out of the woodwork when a lot of people have points of disagreement with you but they magically disappear under every other article, then your "trolls" are imaginary boogeymen, just like their namesake creatures.

    An actual troll will never be deterred by a lack of relevance under the article, just like the the dick niggers spammer.

    Is that a backhanded way of saying that men are smarter than women?

    No, it's a comment on the fact that women don't like doing brainy shit. See this, is what I'm talking about, this is an unreasonably strained interpretation that you and those of your ideological framework tend to automatically apply to any form of disagreement.

    You are the one who is burning the bridge of decency here.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:07AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:07AM (#686151)

      Physical beauty and intelligence both take time and effort to cultivate, one cannot effectively maintain both to an optimal degree. You can compromise, but you cannot fully develop both to your natural capacity.

      Unless, of course, you hit the genetic jackpot and have both. Intelligence, as opposed to knowledge, is largely genetic, but can still change to some extent. You can improve your looks with various surgeries and makeup; in that sense, it does take time and effort to cultivate, but some people don't really need those things.