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Trump Administration Makes 15,000 Additional H-2B Visas available
The Department of Homeland Security said Friday it would provide businesses another 15,000 H-2B visas to bring low-skilled foreign workers to the U.S. this summer, offering a modest infusion to the popular program.
The number of visas available each year for seasonal work is capped by statute at 66,000, evenly divided between the summer and winter seasons. Congress declined to lift that cap during negotiations this spring. It did, however, give the secretary of homeland security authority to issue up to 69,000 more this summer if she determines there is sufficient need.
A range of businesses—including fisheries, landscapers and those in summer tourist spots—have complained about worker shortages and have been waiting to see if Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen will use that authority. But people who support restrictions on immigration, including some in the White House, argue that foreign workers drive down American wages and oppose additional visas.
Faced with a similar choice last summer, then-DHS Secretary John Kelly also provided an additional 15,000 visas but cast it as a one-time only move.
Also reported at:
- https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-makes-15-000-additional-h-2b-visas-available-1527279631
- https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/05/26/homeland-security-approves-15000-additional-h-2b-visas-to-bring-low-skilled-foreign-workers-to-us
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @08:35PM (12 children)
You yourself pointed it out, but seem blind to it at the same time:
Also, you're probably wrong; poverty doesn't lead to people reproducing, but rather reproducing leads to people in poverty.
Not only are you willfully ignoring the fact that these poor people are ACTIVELY PRODUCING more poor people, but you are also willfully ignoring the scientifically measured fact that poor populations reproduce more prodigiously than rich populations.
So, what could your point possibly be?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @08:51PM
I don't suppose we could offer to buy them contraception or abortions....?
Asking for a friend....
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @10:10PM (1 child)
Gee this may be a tough one for you, but social safety nets would be a great start. Universal healthcare, education, basic income. The US already provides most of that already, however the programs are locked behind so much bullshit due to conservatives freaking out about freeloaders that the programs are actually counter productive sometimes. People who want to work are unable to because they can't afford to lose $150 a month in food stamps or whatever.
This is undoubtedly wasted on you, and I have a feeling you are just the violent imposed series of contracts jackass so I can expect more stupidity in reply, but ^ is the point.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:03PM
You want to steal from productive people in order to give it to unproductive people who also clone themselves. Great.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday May 29 2018, @10:38PM (2 children)
Hasn't been true throughout the world. High fertility associated with poverty is a known thing. They need those extra bodies because a) they need the additional labor to make ends meet, and b) due to high infant and child mortality associate with poverty, they need more bodies in order to improve the odds of some surviving long enough to reproduce.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:09PM (1 child)
That's not poverty causing people to fuck. That's people in poverty trying to get out of poverty by making an intelligent choice (e.g., I need more farmhands). Alas, those intelligent thinkers are lost in the overwhelming noise that is the population of low-quality people who are not only fucking for no good reason, but also fucking in a way that yields new sentient beings.
You're wrong. Your interpretation of the data is, as usual, wrong.
Poverty doesn't cause reproduction; rather, reproduction causes poverty.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday June 02 2018, @03:12AM
Fuck != reproduction.
If we're to discuss data, then perhaps you should bring some up rather than just talk out of your ass. I'll note that there is a massive global decline in human fertility. It didn't happen because the world became magically less dumb.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday May 30 2018, @02:26AM (5 children)
GIVE ME A BREAK, 'fagtard'.
My wife and i are tired ALL THE TIME: my son is autistic and needs a lot of help in life (bathing, Special Olympics, socializing, education).
We both work full time jobs, come home and make supper, clean up dishes, help him with school work/take him to SO baseball/basketball/swimming/bocce ball, cut grass, weed gardens, etc etc etc....
Our daughter went to college and graduated with a degree in Behavioural Psychology and has a good paying job now, but we sacrificed like crazy to get her there.
We work hard, our son is doing well, our daughter is doing well.
So. FUCK. OFF.
Don't tell me how people on welfare couldn't be out working for their paycheck, doing something so they feel their worth in the community instead of sitting at home getting fat, drinking booze, doing drugs and yelling at their kids.
I have seen families on welfare pick themselves up and do well in life and i have seen the ones who soak the system and abuse their kids.
FUCK OFF. Do NOT tell me how hard they have it, how the fuck hard do you think i have it.
Do not tell me welfare recipients could not do work to collect a cheque, which would also get them out and give them a feeling of self worth.
Do not tell me they are depressed, that they can't do any work.
Do not tell me your christian raising is better than my "God is dead, get on with life and live life as if you DID believe in God".
I do not cheat on my wife, murder people, steal, abuse my kids, etc etc etc.
I do not have sex with kids and then confess it and "it's all better now, right Father?" "Right Father, lol".
When you have worked a life as hard as ours, YOU COME AND TALK TO ME.
Raise yourself up above poverty and above God: "God helps those who help themselves".
GET. A. LIFE.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @04:26PM (4 children)
Very good of you, sounds like your family is good people. That still doesn't change the fact that many many people don't have the same options, and it doesn't change the fact that many people on welfare do indeed need it. Yes some people are slackers who will coast by and abuse the system, but the numbers say those are a minority of the welfare recipients. Your anger about your own lot in life has torn away your compassion.
All you see is your own situation and you apply a broad brush to people you don't even know. Fix that, because if you or your wife get sick or too old you just might end up on social assistance. The majority of welfare recipients eventually do pull themselves out of it, but you prefer to ignore the stats and let your anger and anecdotes rule.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday May 30 2018, @04:58PM (3 children)
"Yes some people are slackers who will coast by and abuse the system, but the numbers say those are a minority of the welfare recipients"
I had neighbours who lived across the road from me at one time: i would come home at night on Friday and they'd be out drinking (2 families across the road). They'd drink all Saturday and Sunday.
Monday morning i'd be heading off to work and there'd be beer bottles all over the lawns.
Mike Harris got into government in Ontario and introduced 'Workfare': you get welfare, you work for you cheque. All of a sudden, they weren't drinking all weekend, they were cleaning up their yard and house, they put new shingles on their house.
OMG, Mike Harris gets voted out for doing what he said he'd do and all of a sudden, they are drinking all weekend again.
Do not tell me about compassion: i was willing to let my taxes go up in order to get these people living better and contributing.
"The majority of welfare recipients eventually do pull themselves out of it, but you prefer to ignore the stats and let your anger and anecdotes rule."
There is a lady who works(ed) with me who is bucking for a 'disability' so she can stop working because (as one of her family said on a phone call to my boss) "she is a piece of crap".
She doesn't want to work for a living.
Yes, there are some on welfare who do not want to be there, but there are a lot of 'welfare families' who begat welfare and in turn begat welfare.
Don't give me Christian values, don't give me 'some people just can't': i knew a phlebidomide (sp?) baby guy who had no legs below the knee cap and no arms below the elbow: he worked a fulll time job and his writing was neater than mine (you should see this guy eat with a fork: fucking amazing, like the caterpillar guy lighting a cigarette in the movie "Freaks")
There is too much welfare begetting welfare. We need 'workfare' again, methinks.
"All you see is your own situation and you apply a broad brush to people you don't even know."
My wife sees it (she's an Educational Assistant in a public school: she makes lunches for the kids whose parents can't be bothered to get out of bed or out of their drug/booze inspired stupor to make them one) and I see it.
Lazy is lazy.
We hire for attitude and train.
Too many times, attitude is "I want hours (money) but i don't want to work them".
Send us people with attitude to work and contribute. Too much it is "whuh? you want me to show up at 7:30am?????? whuh?"
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:40PM (2 children)
You're ignorant, that is all there is to it.
Here, this may help you understand the other side a little https://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-tirado/why-poor-peoples-bad-decisions-make-perfect-sense_b_4326233.html?guccounter=1 [huffingtonpost.com]
With such a high level of "personal responsibility" maybe you could try actually looking at the data, at the other countries doing things WAY better than the US, and understand that supporting your community and providing safety nets that keep people from complete destitution and hopelessness are GOOD THINGS!
Your lack of compassion makes you a shitbird flying in a shitstorm, and people like you are ruining this country. You may be a hard worker, but you're a judgmental shit supporting legislation that makes you feel better/superior while making communities worse. Support universal health care, support a UBI (or similar) that doesn't put people in a poverty trap, stop worrying about welfare fraud and worry more about corporate / government fraud which impacts our society way more.
Your anecdotes can be found everywhere, but you ignore the overwhelming majority of people using welfare as intended. You are simply a fuckhead who wants to justify your own anger. Life is hard, so you shit on people you feel superior to in order to feel better.
You shitbags have ruined this country along with your shitlord Reagan. Your "fiscal responsibility" policies were bass-ackwards and have been tanking our country to support the rich. But oh noooo, you focus on the minority of dirtbags trying to defraud welfare. You are THE WORST! I'll take Joe Asshole smoking/drinking/gambling over your hateful ass. Oddly enough I bet there is quite an overlap between the ideologies of Joe and yourself. Think about that moron.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday May 30 2018, @11:58PM (1 child)
Oh shit, you are stupid.
I give examples from Ontario, Canada and you say "the other countries doing things WAY better than the US" and you say I'm ignorant. Yeah. I'm ignorant, lol. (Typical American response: there are NO other countries but the goob ol' UbSAy!
From your link: she says she got pregnant while living in a motel. THERE'S A GOOD CHOICE! WAY TO EXTEND THE POVERTY! (My wife and i planned (heavily planned) our first baby: we made sure we had money in the bank and good jobs before we even CONSIDERED having kids)
"Broccoli is intimidating!" Yeah...cut it up, put it in a pot with some water and boil/steam it for a few minutes... OMG, so hard!
"I smoke. It's expensive. I am always exhausted. When i am too tired to walk one more step, I can always smoke and go for another hour" Sounds like my wife and I, except we don't smoke. Why? It's EXPENSIVE! We are always exhausted. When we are too tired to walk one more step, we keep going because our son likes Special Olympics and has many friends there. We keep going because he needs things like that.
Let me go on!
"I make a lot of poor financial decisions. None of them matter, in the long term. I will never not be poor, so what does it matter if I don’t pay a thing and a half this week instead of just one thing?"
We can't afford too many poor financial decisions: we don't want to be poor, so we scrimp and save and do without (remember the cigarettes and how expensive they are?) so we won't be poor, because we CAN'T be. Our son would be so far out of whack if we didn't save and get him his gluten free food...let me tell you; you don't want to be around him when he gets a lot of gluten. So we don't smoke, i've quit drinking (doing fairly well there, spank me very much) because we just can't.
"Poverty is bleak and cuts off your long-term brain. It’s why you see people with four different babydaddies instead of one."
Sheeeeit, motherfuck... can't even do this one.... hate that whole babbydaddy shit. Be an adult.
"You shitbags have ruined this country along with your shitlord Reagan. Your "fiscal responsibility" policies were bass-ackwards and have been tanking our country to support the rich. But oh noooo, you focus on the minority of dirtbags trying to defraud welfare.....Think about that moron."
Again, MORON, i gave you clues that i am Canadian and you, IGNORANT MORON missed them completely.
I am not against welfare. I am not against social support.
I AM against big business getting more than it should and destroying the world like it has (which is why i started voting Green party and did again IN THE ONTARIO (CANADA) PROVINCIAL ELECTION this year).
I am also against ignorant morons getting pregnant without any planning and then soaking the system because their 4 babbydaddy's won't pay child support.
I am against welfare for nothing: people collecting welfare could do SOMETHING!, even if it is just picking up garbage off the street for fuchia's sake. Get them out of the house, socializing and getting exercise... get them up in the morning, get them working instead of drinking and make them tired at night BUT THEY ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING!
I am also against ignorant fucks like you who use poor examples to support their case and then CALL ME IGNORANT.
(You should look up Canada in the map.... it's there. See if you can find it! I bet you can! Go on... give it a try some time. If you can find the USA on the map, here's a hint: we're just North of you.)
Does that help?)
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 05 2018, @09:02AM
You seem a little angry.
And what is your solution to poor financial decisions? Having government come in and run people's lives? Maybe we can have "Family Finance Assistance Dept." so people don't need to make decisions and fall flat on their faces. Like in prison? And yes, lots of people with poor self-control like prison because it takes away uncertainty and their shit planning skills.
Yes, I agree with you. Most of the people that are *really* poor in rich nations have made some bad decisions. But some of those decisions are bad with 20/20 hindsight.
And sometimes bad shit happens. People also do get used to shit and give up on anything better. In other words, sometimes it's more complicated than the simple answers in your head.